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Replacing starter motor on 1978 400 Auto

Discussion in '365 GT4 2+2/400/412' started by rustytractor, Oct 16, 2012.

  1. bjwhite

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    Yup. Mine, which started doing the click...crap....turn click...crap...turn...ok there it started...soon after I bought it. And now, will not do anything besides click. :)

    I am going to try to clean up the connections on advice from the previous owner, but if that doesn't immediately work, I will get this new starter. Although, when this one works, I do like how it sounds as it turns the motor. Very--classic.
     
  2. Nathan76

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    After an overnight and full day charge of the battery managed to get her to start! Alternator is charging so can only be the battery is faulty (it's a new unit so going to replace it under warranty). Funnily enough there is a drain on the battery of about 0.4amp with the engine off. Obviously clock is running but all else is off. Has anyone seen anything similar on theirs?

    Still going to get one of the US starters on order ready for its winter break. Hopefully it will keep going until then.
     
  3. Al Campbell

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    Mine kept slowly discharging the battery as well. I eventually put the camera in the boot to record a movie & shut the boot. When I played it back it confirmed the boot light did not go out. The tab on the boot hinge that was meant to operate the switch was in the wrong position.
     
  4. Nathan76

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    It's a good call. Had a volvo 480 turbo years ago that kept discharging as the glove compartment light was permanently on. A common fault apparently. Certainly an interesting car...
     
  5. blkprlz

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    +1 on that one Big time!!
     
  6. rustytractor

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    The link posted for the starter is correct however the guy I dealt with is Dave and you can email him at classiccarperformance@gmail.com

    Very helpful guy, we haggled a bit and I ended up paying $385 for the starter inc. shipping to the Belagio Hotel in Las Vegas where a friend of mine was on holiday and brought it back for me in his hand luggage !
     
  7. wrxmike

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    Found exactlly the same problem with my car.
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  8. squidmark

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    Just for the UK forum members I guess - but I have sourced a supply of these very starters so if anyone wants one just shout/PM whatever! They are built to the same spec but using slightly superior parts. I have no affiliation to the company involved, but through my contacts with them can offer a good price (if that makes sense).

    Howard
     
  9. 300man

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    Sounds like a good plan...
     
  10. Nathan76

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    +1 looked tonight. Boot light red hot to the touch. Obviously been burning away on the trickle charger..
     
  11. Nathan76

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    Howard we should pool UK requirements and see if he can do us a bulk deal. Let me know what he wants and I maybe interested.
    thanks
     
  12. Piston.Broke

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    Hi Howard.

    I have just pulled the starter on my RHD 400iA (In Australia). I could have it rebuilt but would prefer to replace it with a more modern (Gear reduction) type.
    Would you be able to provide the model number/starter type you are using.

    (If there is a commercial reason you cant pass this info on - no problem)

    Cheers !

    Rick.
     
  13. Ferraridoc

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    Try using the search feature - there's bound to be a gear reduction one that fits
     
  14. Al Campbell

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    Hi Rick,

    I purchased two of these starters off Howard after a locally sourced unit (in Australia) did not fit. I can highly recommend them & have had no issues fitting the starter or with its operation. The details of the supplied starters are wosperformance.co.uk & part number LMS029.
    Thanks again to Howard (squidmark) for his help in this.

    Cheers,
    Al
     
  15. Al Campbell

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  16. Piston.Broke

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    Hi Al,

    Thanks for the info.
    Cheers!

    Rick.
     
  17. Dazanz

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    My starter motor on my 365GT4 2+2 has being getting slower and slower, (new large battery and good cable), in the end it was not sounding smooth and wouldn't turn the engine so I am assuming the worst that new bushes, brushes and solenoid contacts are not a option. it's getting removed today. Any new suppliers to buy a quality gear reduction starter motor. Thank you Daren
     
  18. rovexienus

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    Hello Daren, I have had this type of high torque starter installed on my two 365 GT4 2+2 last year, it is a complete change for the better. The brand is WOSP, the model is LMS029 (as indicated by Al).

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  19. Dazanz

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    Looks great thank you Jean. Any contacts to purchase this starter motor available
     
  20. rovexienus

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  21. Dazanz

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    Thank you Jean, I ordered a Wosp starter motor and it fitted great (check how they send it because it arrived 2 to 3 weeks on the lowest priority mail). My mechanic made up a special Ferrari tool ;) (Bent spanner) which reached the top bolt which resulted in the removal of the exhaust not being necessary. Took him about 3 hours from start to finish and it's turning over real fast now
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  22. rovexienus

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