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Repairing a Marelli Microplex

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  1. alhbln

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    #26 alhbln, Dec 23, 2015
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    I should have finished the MED806A documents by now but got a bit distracted and build myself a small Microplex tester to help with testing a full car setup.

    The tester is meant to be plugged in-between the Microplex and the car wiring (connector for diag cable on the top right), and has another socket (bottom right) for a cable to the round test plug in the engine compartment. On the left side is a DB9 serial connector for connecting a Laptop or PC to access serial debug information and runtime data (e.g. replacing a Ferrari Tester).

    Some of the features:

    - TDC and RPM sensor coil/wire test and signal output display
    - Leds for ignition trigger and spark discharge to diagnose ignition module and coil defects
    - TDC/RPM Sync Led to indicate if TDC/RPM ratio is correct (green) or if the sensor is faulty (yellow=too few RPM pulses / red too many RPM pulses per TDC segment)
    - Manifold sensor vacuum level display via Led brightness
    - Leds for throttle and cold start injector activity
    - Map selection (car type selection, EU/US/Swiss maps etc.) is displayed via Leds and can be manually overridden for testing

    That was fun! Now back to finish the documents...
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  2. ME308

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    great stuff, Adrian !
     
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    #28 Paul_59, Mar 29, 2016
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    I don't own a Ferrari however I came across you forum whilst searching for information on Marelli microplex MED123E

    this is fitted to late model (post 1989) Jaguar V12 engines.

    From reading the information on these posts and also Dinoplex website (very useful) plus comparing my own photo of the internals of MED123E it seems to be remarkably similar to MED120B.

    Obviously the ignition advance / retard map VS rpm and load will be different in the Ferrari application but otherwise seem the same
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    It looks more similar to the MED807 (mostly due to the advance bit resistors going to the cointer) but the architecture is similar to the MED120/MED807, e.g. you should be able to use the test points from the MED120 documentation. Could you mail me a high res image of the PCB to the mail address on my website?

    What is the unit on the second photo with the NEC controller for?
     
  5. Paul_59

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    Hi Adrian,
    Photo on its way via email.
    The second image in my post above was an error, in that it's not made by Marelli, rather it's a Lucas 36CU ecu fitted to V12 Jaguar (XJS 89 TO 96 Models) to control fuel injection.
     
  6. Crowndog

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    Adrian,
    Is this cmos variant useful:

    http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1321835
     
  7. Keith360

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    Very interesting topic, keep going...
     
  8. alhbln

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    Unfortunately the Motorola embedded CPU used in the Microplex is a special version with additional input/output ports, so the CMOS 6809 would not be a direct replacement. And then you would still need the embedded software for the replacement :)
     
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    Trying again....any use?
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  10. alhbln

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    The one in question is a MC68705R3, but there were two different versions with different pinouts. And even if you get hold of one, you would still need the firmware image (the program code) from Marelli to flash it to the MC68705R3.
     
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    I see. Got it.
     
  12. alhbln

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    But thanks for looking! :)
     

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