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  1. Exvetteguy

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    I Have A 2004 Ferrari 360 Spider And I Want To Change The Oil Myself. I Read Several Threads Suggesting Redline 5w40 Instead Of Penzoil....When I Search For Redline Oil There Are Several Different Ones With Different Part Numbers...Anyone have Proper Part Number Or A Picture Of The Oil They Can Share? Thank You In Advance.
     
  2. flash32

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  3. clean512

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    Can't go wrong with that. Group V ester based oil.
     
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  4. Exvetteguy

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    Thank You.
     
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  6. Exvetteguy

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    I Have Heard Great Things About Amsoil!
     
  7. cpep

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    Just bought another case of redline for my next change. Started running it last change and will be sending a sample to blackstone to evaluate.
     
  8. flash32

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    Fir the record ..I only answered the OP question .. I normally use Mobil 1 ..

    I didn't think he wanted any recommendations..just which of the redline he should buy

    Sent from my moto g power using Tapatalk
     
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  9. Scottslaw

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    For what its worth, I've used penzoil, lubrimoly, and the latest was amsoil in my high mileage scud. I couldn't really tell a difference in terms of performance, with one exception. It seemed pretty clear that the amsoil had less bubbles on the dipstick when I checked the oil. I have no idea if that is an indication of anything, but I thought I'd mention it. And the difference was pretty obvious. To the point that it was easier to read the level on the stick. YMMV.
     
  10. Rifledriver

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    How do you define success? Neither engine has blown up yet? I see that comment often and really wonder what is meant by it.
     
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  11. Rifledriver

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    Redline used to be a company local to me. It was started by a guy who is very involved in motorsports whose goal was to produce top quality products for severe use. He and the company had a very good reputation.
     
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  12. Rifledriver

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    He is a great self promoter.
     
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  13. collegeboy

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    So I take it you don't like Amsoil. LOL.
     
  14. Rifledriver

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    I have nothing against it. Mostly I find it amusing the extreme levels of praise given to motor oils when so few really know much about it.
    All the name brands are really good products. Not a single one is significantly better than any other. And some, like Amsoil benefit from big advertising money.
     
  15. ItalGerBrit

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    A question for Rifledriver. I quit racing(Porsche 911) and still have a lot of Brad Penn 20W50 oil. I am in deep S Louisiana where it is hot and humid almost all year around so what would be wrong with using that oil in my 2002 360?

    Seems like oil is oil and they will all work. Except for extreme temps, almost any viscosity will work according to the viscosity charts.
     
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  16. 066/8

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    Fully agree with this: Typically all major brands offer products which are 1) more than sufficient for street application 2) functionally extremely similar or identical to their competitors.

    The oil can make a difference in serious motorsports, although in somewhat unexpected ways which are not relevant in all other applications. Thus worrying about your oil type/brand is not really waranted unless you are chasing a world championship title :)
     
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  17. Rifledriver

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    Despite the high average temps I do think there is an advantage to a thinner cold viscosity especially in a dry sump engine that on cold start needs to fill a lot of plumbing before the engine gets a drop. It will just happen faster.
    That being said we ran a lot of 20-50 for a lot of years with good results. On the old iron sleeve Ferrari engines I still use Valvoline 20-50 because they burn synthetic oil as fast as I can pour it in.
     
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  18. ItalGerBrit

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    Thanks for the info. I will just keep the 20/50 oil to remind me of all the great times I had on the track.
     
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  19. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    What are you pouring in your 328?

    Because what you are using in your car is what I will be using.
     
  20. Rifledriver

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    I use Mobile 1 because of all the name brand synthetics I can get it most easily and cheaply. I buy it either at Walmart or Amazon. They both sell 5 liter bottles for less than I can buy 55 gallon barrels at commercial suppliers. When I was right down the road from Redline I used that but it is much more expensive and harder to get here.
     
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  21. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    I have a friend here that is to Mercedes like you are Ferrari. 42 years with only Mercedes. He is a vanishing talent because he is really one of the last few people we know that has a knowledge depth on the make, especially the older ones that NO one else has under 50 years of age. I have three W124 models (including a 94 E500)

    Anyway, after he moved here from Atlanta several years ago he had one of them at his house and among a few other things was going to change the oil. When I ask him what he was going to use he told me to go to Walmart and get a coulple of those 5 Qt Mobil 1's....
     
  22. Exvetteguy

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    I Went With Redline 5W 40...Bought A Factory Filter With New Drainplug And New Copper Crush Washers...Also Bought The Oil Filter Tool Designed Specifically For The Ferrari Oil Filter...Thank You Everyone For The Advice.
     
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  23. 67bmer

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    The truth is, if your car is not overheating or exceeding the thermostat set temperature, it doesn't matter what the outside temperature and humidity are, the oil is still at about the same temperature just like the water.

    Extremely cold startups are where the oil viscosity really makes a difference and thinner is better.

    As Rifledriver said, the name brand off-the-shelf oils are all suitable for daily driving. It's only when you get to competitive racing that they aren't. Which is also why racing oil isn't suitable for street cars.
     
  24. vrsurgeon

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    Any 5w-40 synthetic should work fine. I really like the Redline 5w-40 and I order it on Amazon or ebay fo' cheap. Otherwise I use the Mobil1 0w-40 from walmart in my porsche and have used it in the 360 without issue.
     
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  25. Mario Andretti

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    I also used Mobil 1 0w-40 and oil pressure dropped A LOT a idle (compared to Redline which I ran before it) when hot after a track session in summer... It is not what it used to be in my opinion. Just my personal opinion based on my findings. It is probably perfect for a garage queen, lots of zinc content to protect valves and cold startups.
     

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