Kind of an oddball question ---- but, I'm betting someone here knows the answer.... Does anyone know whether the red Daytona Spyder that was wrecked in the film "A Star is Born" (the remake, circa 1976, with B. Streisand & K. Kristofferson) was a genuine Daytona or was it a kit / replica??? The car that was used in the film was indeed real, I believe ---- I'm just not sure if they substituted a fake for the wreck sequence or not (I sure hope they did !! ). As for the real Daytona used, is anything else known about its history??? I tried to google for the answer, but couldn't find too much about it.
It was a genuine car (16467). The wreck was acquired by Luigi Chinetti and subsequently rebodied by Michelotti. http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C60851
I know that car well, it also had a flat plywood dash, and Stewart Warner gauges fitted to it, for the filming. The rest of the inside of the car was gutted. The car was hit hard in the left door area, and the chassis was bent severely inward. My first job was that I was given a 1 gallon pail of Rosso Chiaro lacquer, and a 4" wide house paint brush, and I was instructed to paint the right side of the car. Not the back or the left side, ONLY the right side! I don't think that I could sleep for a week, as that was sacrilegious. I'll never forget that car! Gary Bobileff
Wow.... I never knew that. Saw that movie a zillion times "back in the day" and always chalked it up to a replica. I had no idea..... Thanks for the post Jedi
^^^ You guys are freakin' awesome --- thanks for the info !!!! I've been a member of F-chat since day one (different user name prior to 2004, though ), and it just gets more amazing all the time I was always under the impression that it was a "real" Daytona that they wrecked --- now I know for sure. And, now I have a justifiable reason to defend to my gal why I won't watch that movie with her (it's one of her favorites ----- but, I can't stand it) ---- now I've got an out, one that she too will appreciate, without causing a squabble ........if she ever wants to ride in my F-car again, at least --- LOL
I always thought it was a real car. They used to destroy all kinds of cars in those days. I remember the opening title to the show Mannix. It had an E-type jag go off a cliff in the opening credits. Painful!
So now, given what's been posted here, I simply MUST watch that (dreadful) movie again just to see that scene. Truth be told, I LOVED that movie when it came out in the late 70s.... I was a late teen, and it was one of the first "dramas" that turned my crank. Haven't seen it since the mid-80s or so. Jedi
At least in Viva Las Vegas they didn't crash a 250 GT. If you look real close, you'll see it changes rather quickly to a Daimler. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
The rolled car is a replacement, but that doesn't mean the Ferrari survived intact. They may actually have crashed it twice. I get the feeling it is not a coincidence that the repaired car was parked left side towards camera when filming that garage scene...
There is a discussion of the cars in the book "Moteur!... Elles Tournent Les Ferrari au cinema" by Phillpe Ramlot starting on page 21 "Une Etoile est Nee" But the French is too hard for me. At one time Jon Shirley owned the car that was rebodied by Michelotti for Luigi Chinetti, but I do not know if he still own it. Shirley told me that there were several Daytonas used in the movie, all rebodied by Michelotti, but I have no independent confirmation of this.
Here are the Daytona Spyder scenes from the movie: [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bs4kLq2SIM[/ame] [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2usMd7l4O0[/ame] [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKaRlJJI5ok&feature=related[/ame]
The story of the Star is Born car being dented (being kind) are fairly well known and it's subsequent rebody..but a few of the Michelotti rebodies are sometimes confused with each (other then the roll bar /targa Steve Mcqueen attributed car which I've always loved..14897?.. and the NART car #15965) ..its the other 2 or 3 cars that have had sometimes incorrect info attached to them..
Most car stunts back then were done by stuntman Carey Loftin. Carey owned about 5-6 Bizzarrini's some of his more notable films were. Duel Viva Las Vegas Herbie the love bug Rebel without a cause it's a mad mad world Grand Prix Bullitt Point Blank Speedway Patton Vanishing Point THX 1138 French Connection Diamonds are forever The Getaway Magnum Force The Eiger Sanction Stingray Against all odds Good Ferrari scene Days of thunder The Rookie Image Unavailable, Please Login
Bob Solomon the owner of the 'movie Daytona' was none too happy about the outcome. It turned him off of 'Ferrari' in general... CH
It's funny, I've watched this show probably 2-3 times in my life. But go over these 3 scenes atleast 3-4 times a year. Over and Over. I was disappointed to see the new film, he rides a motorcycle.
Funny, I found this thread trying to confirm if there were actually three Daytonas in the movie. I always heard that there was the wrecked car, an Arizona car and a California car. Oddly a friend of mine in the late seventies and early eighties, Joe Crevier, bought what I thought was the car used only in the Arizona scenes. I rode in the car many times and he used to drive at at Ferrari Owner's Club events at Riverside. He was pretty quick too. Here is more info on the car. http://www.barchetta.cc/english/all.ferraris/detail/14829.365.gts4.htm Perhaps it was the only running car in the movie, as the Barchetta records don't seem to imply there was another. If I find out more on this topic, I will post it. Back then at the Long Beach Grand Prix, the Ferrari Owner’s Club started getting a block of seats at the end of the main straight and set up a catering tent right behind it. After the end of one of the races, Joe grabbed his car and we pulled out on the track and did a hot lap. Nobody was expecting it and, of course, we had a ball. As we parked it, his wife, who certainly had a mind of her own, grabbed my wife at the time and they did a hot lap. Well, they tried to, but now everybody was ready for them and they really caused a stink. I think Joe was lucky that his car didn't get impounded. those were the days….
Ed was such a great guy. Everyone who knew him misses him greatly. He and I co-owned a 275 Four Cam in the seventies, but being involved in a car deal with Ed does not put a person in a very elite group. Everyone who is on this forum should order his book set IMMEDIATELY! Those who knew him then will love the stories and photos. He talks about virtually every Ferrari he owned and it was over 100. For those of you who came to the party a little later, you will be stunned with what was happening before these cars became works of art. As I recall, Ed brought a car over that was found by an Italian friend and he was aghast at how worn out it appeared. Ed later found out it was a hot rodded 250 SWB that had recently won its class at Le Mans! But, back then, nobody cared about the histories. Buy the books! The two volumes are fascinating and proceeds go to Phoebe, who is still around. https://octanepress.com/book/adventures-ferrari-land-set
Joe and Diana Crevier, quite a fun loving pair. The book is like talking with Ed. Thank you for the update on Phoebe.
Hi Jeff, Nice to see your name here. Yes, Joe and Diana were quite a pair. Phoebe is still around, but is suffering from Parkinson's, I believe. We lost Larry Bloomer to cancer last year. I was very close to Larry and Diane. Diane has a sister in Palm Desert, who she visited for a while, so I saw her several times before she headed back to LA. She is doing well. The old crew is getting pretty small. We have said it before, but the seventies and early eighties were golden eras for SoCal Ferraristi! Best, dc
Does any one here remember the "prank" that Crevier's wife would always pull midway down the long straight at Riverside Raceway with the FOC ? That "prank" made Joe a hero back in those days! Gary Bobileff