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Red Bull investigate Horner for inappropriate behaviour.

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  1. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Horner is an organizer/facilitator/manager and speaker. A well paid motivator with a love for motorsport. Let me know why he is better than Vasseur. For 7 years there was no title at RedBull and he kept his job. As in so many situations, its who you know. He knew the founder, who is gone. Change.
    He is subject to it and his fingers and messages to an EMPLOYEE literally opened the world to this.

    Max will win everything this year and so will his team. If Horner is released/fired/replaced none of that will change at all. Wheatley is immediately available and is well seasoned under Horner and Marko and knew the founder as well. The continuity is not in doubt. The odd employee/tech/engineer might leave. They have been with Horner there. For us the intrigue/mystery and mess continue. Love F1 yes!??
     
  2. subirg

    subirg F1 Rookie

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    So either this is a love triangle gone wrong, or it’s an ego trip (probably connected to the love triangle situation) or it’s about money… The back story to this Jos vs Horner handbags incident will be tremendous when it comes out! Hollywood movie grade!
     
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  3. USMCS6

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    I think if I had Horners cash and his hot wife, I would have found more of an upgrade to sext with for sure.
     
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  4. 375+

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    Lili von Shtupp?
     
  5. SS454

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    Seriously? Horner becomes TP of Red Bull in 2005 after they bought Jaguar who did nothing. 5 years later they go onto win 4 championships on the trot. Now are set up to give Max his 4th WDC and likely 3rd straight WCC. You want to compare that with Vasseur? Quit Renault after 1 year because he couldn't get the team to work together. Did nothing with Sauber. So far the car has not got any closer to the front since the beginning of 2022. But hey like you said, the TP does nothing technical so why should it be expected?

    The TP is the voice of the team to the FIA and F1, so being able to get what you want to benefit your team has huge value. Look what Toto gets for Mercedes. It's also about putting together the team necessary to build a great car, and of course race track operations. Jean Todt was a key member of the Schumacher era. Michael said it himself that Todt's work ethic was second to none. Can anyone say he did nothing for Ferrari's dominance?

    Anyone and everyone is expendable, and I am sure now that Red Bull are at the very top they will remain successful at least in the short term if Horner left. But give the guy some credit to the success of the team. If they thought he was a worthless nobody like you seem to suggest, I am sure they would have got rid of him long ago.

    This whole Jos is orchestrating the attack to get rid of Horner or that the Red Bull ownership hates Horner and has set him up to get fired or that Horner is useless and only had a job because he was buddies with Dietrich is hollow nonsense without a shred of evidence as of yet.

    Someone needs to get Helmut on camera and ask him some questions. He is so arrogant he couldn't help tell the truth in his own messed up way.
     
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  6. 375+

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    I'll keep an eye out for him.
     
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  7. Terra

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    Sainz Sr was at Bahrain this past weekend and Jr still finished 3rd . . .
     
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  9. ZeptoLira

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    Wheatley AND MASI could win ALL the championships for the rest of Min's career. ;)
     
  10. jimmyb

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    #785 jimmyb, Mar 4, 2024
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    Uh...no.
    Horner took over Red Bull in 2005. In his 19 years there, the team has won 7 championships.
    No doubt every team (except M-B) would HAPPILY take 7 titles in 19 years.

    PS. "You are what your record says you are".
    Horner's record says he's good, no matter what you think.
     
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  11. Mitch Alsup

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    "Those schnitzengruben can wipe you out"
     
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  13. jimmyb

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    Is this her?
    What's her name?
    Who does she work for?
    Is she the leak/emailer?
    Has she said anything about this fiasco publicly?
     
  14. Terra

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    Horner's PA, Fiona Hewitson.
     
  15. Giallo 550

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    The only way Max Verstappen goes to Mercedes is if he suffers a traumatic brain injury that severely impacts his judgement.
     
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  16. johnireland

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    Looks more like Jos' type and probably wants to ride his coattails...or what have you....to a better job. Toto and Horner are cut from the same cloth...they get things done. There isn't another TP on the grid who can match their records. Jos is trying use his son to get his own face infront of the media.
     
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    Rumor has it that Jos Verstappen is dating the PA of Christian Horner. Horner is not happy with that arrangement. Who know what juicey stuff she is telling Jos. I'd send her back to the kitchen and get a new assistant.
     
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  18. 066/8

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    Richard Nanula comes to mind. If you gonna lose your CEO job over sex related issues, that's the way to do it.
     
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  19. SS454

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    So over the course of 2023 while these inappropriate texts, pics, and activities between Horner and his PA were going on, Jos didn't bother to speak up or get involved. Texts in late 2023 (perhaps as late as December) have the woman saying she does not have a boyfriend, though many believe these to be AI generated. So sometime in 2024 Jos gets involved with PA, gets her to file a lawsuit, Jos spills it to the Dutch media that something is going on against Horner. Then after the case is dismissed, he shares all the photos (that may or may not be fake) to dozens of people within the F1 community. Then he goes to Red Bull with threats of having Max leave unless Horner gets fired, and then talks with Toto about Max going to Mercedes.

    What is he, Dr Evil? This is a diabolical scheme that seems to be written by the same folks that write Soap Operas. At this point, this is bloody hysterical.
     
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  20. Jack-the-lad

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    More information is required before schtupworthiness can be determined.
     
  21. jimmyb

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    I guess she's going to find out that you reap what you sow.
     
  22. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    Shoulda gone to Specsavers...
     
  23. Phil~

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    Well we have to see the rest of her. Horny mentions her hot bum so she must be a right fit bird.
     
  24. cmos

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    Christian Horner ain’t no James Hunt.
     
  25. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    Yeh James would have just grabbed a hostie to 'assist' on the infamous flight :eek:
     

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