I don't know as the work was done by the body shop: Maybe they removed the rivets in advance, sorry. Ciao
There is a screw with a hex drive at the forward corner, where the 'B' pillar meets the rest of the black metal sub frame. This screw holds the 'B' pillar to the rest of the sub-frame. There might be another screw at the back of the sub-frame, might be wrong on that one. I'll see if I can dig up some pics to post. -F
I have seen one strange screw on a corner. If you can post some pictures, that would be great. @alberto : no need to say sorry! You are a great help.
I can't find any pictures of the sub frame. There was a restoration thread several years ago about a 308 QV GTB as I remember and I believe it had photos of the sub-frame components. But that's OK, this part of the job is pretty simple. That strange screw in the corner is the one you need to loosen. I believe it takes a 5mm hex key, not positive on that but I know it's a hex drive. -F
On my 308GTSI the rear side windows come out by wrapping string around the weather strip and gently pushing it out as you pull the string. The rear window is the same.
I ordered the fabric so will have to wait. In the mean time I cleaned up the windows and apertures from all the black incredibly sticky stuff. And I checked out the small bolts from the window frame. I decided to not remove those because the window can be pulled out from the bottom. I removed the old fabric from one of the aluminum shelves (they are only glued to the back) and decided to drill our the plate with the screw in it because one is in very bad condition. Are these available anywhere or do I need to fabricate these myself? See the 2 pictures. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Great thread! I have been reading a few threads about the rear deck trim removal, and it seems there are a few variations on removing the shelf. I have an ‘84 QV GTS, so to remove the shelf, it looks like I need to: -pry off the vertical side pillar trim pieces -remove the fuel line brackets (engine bay) so I can.... -remove (or move?) the heat shield so I can..... -undo the 3 shelf hold down bolts behind the heat shield Then (assuming the above is correct) I am not sure if the shelf..... -can simply be removed, or... -need to have rivets/screws removed under the side windows, or.... -need to remove the windows/trim/gasket to get to the rivets/screws. I have no leaks, so I am REALLY hoping not to need to mess with the windows. Thanks in advance for any help. Sent from my iPad using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Speaking of recovering the rear shelf’s with new material, since the material has lines on them, does anyone knows which direction those line goes, diagonal left, diagonal right, straight, or does it not matter?
If you remove those 3 bolts, the shelf can be removed. If you only want to do the 3 pieces (left, right and the centre clamp) of the shelf there is no problem. But even if you have to remove the side windows, it will be easier than on my car, because you have a GTS.
I just did this today on my 1989 328. I had to remove and replace all the carpet pieces so the top rear shelf had to come out. 1. Remove the engine lid. It would be impossible otherwise 2. Remove the front engine compartment dressing plate right below the rear windshield. On my car, I had to unbolt and move out of the way a) coil plate, 2) dip stick tube 3. Reach underneath, and find three M6 nuts. One for each side and one for the center plate. Note to Ferrari designer, if you put loose washer in an upside down position, you are an idiot. 4. Remove the seat belt top mounts. 5. On an 89, that is it. You can reach in and lift up the small center plate and then the two larger pieces. Your mileage may vary if you have anything earlier than 89. I will post some pictures later.
When I bought my car, the previous owner recovered it with black vinyl so I don’t have any idea how it was originally but I have the right material that I bought almost ten years ago and it’s time to use it.
@jazzy: I think I answered your question above. Remove the 3 bolts and you are done if you only want to remove the lower shelf (2 pieces with the clamp). GTS does not have rivets and you do not need to remove the side/quarter windows. @mike: Ah okay. Mine has the same direction as in the picture above.
I don't know for sure but I am guessing that hardware needs to be fabricated. Just a guess, I could be wrong. Maybe look around at a parts catalog and see if that component is broken out as a separate piece. I think it's just part of the shelf as one part number in the catalog. -F
Here are my pictures. Note the window did not have to come out and I replaced the nut at the center with a wing nut from last time.
Nice pictures. So on the 328 also (but larger) wooden blocks to support the shelf. Interesting. The metal of that one shelf looks a bit rusty. Mine are still shiny aluminum. Is it also aluminum on 328's?
That is not rust. It is the color of the glue the factory used. And that U shape thing is not wooden, it is some hard plastic synthetic material. The 89 328 has all the learning and improvement of all the 308 series over the years. No rivets at the side.
Ah okay. GTS never have rivets, so that is a GTB-thing. (not a 308 vs late 328 difference) 328 GTB's also have the rivets as far as I know (and read here)
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