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Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by babwine, Dec 27, 2017.

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  1. babwine

    babwine Karting

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    Would appreciate comments on which radar detectors and laser jammers to install in a 458 Spider or in the alternative, save the $$$ because they don't work well enough.
     
  2. AK488

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    My have been using Stinger in all my cars
     
  3. mas8002mi

    mas8002mi Karting

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    V1 with ALP jammers
     
  4. msgm1

    msgm1 Formula Junior

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    Same Valentine V1 with AL Priority jammers front and rear
     
  5. C50

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    AL Priority here
    Saved me once
    Would install again
     
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  6. dolphins08430

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  7. waterking

    waterking Karting
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    I have found that using a DUTSL* detector works best. It is hard to manage and the reaction time is not often very good but if you master it...it will reward you with little or no drama. I have used V1'a, Escorts, systems built into the rear view mirror and 360 Max's and NONE work as well as the DUTSL. Period. And the threat of killing someone else is diminished increasingly more as you use it.





    *Driving Under The Speed Limit (for you uninitiated)
     
  8. babwine

    babwine Karting

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    Great recommendation and love the low cost. That said, if DUTSL is your thing, why did you buy a Ferrari?


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  9. NYFAIM

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    In my M4 I use a V1 with YaV1 on my Android to cut down on the false negatives - the laser detector is turned off. Also have the Anti Laser Priority jammers front and rear, and then use Waze all the time. I also have front and rear dashcams.

    Works great however you still need to have some situational awareness.

    *I have tried the DUTSL detector, but for some reason, it keeps breaking.
     
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  10. Melvok

    Melvok F1 World Champ
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    I am in Europe ... and only have a Stinges passive GPS system that warns at known locations for speedcams (need to upload that file every so many months).

    For the rest, I drive on my experience I think, now after 15.000 kms no fine yet .... and do realy DRIVE the 458 :D

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  11. waterking

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    You rarely need a detector when on a track. Other than pit zones...I have never seen a speed limit sign when tracking the car.
     
  12. babwine

    babwine Karting

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    True, but for those of us who enjoy their Ferraris as DD, DUTSL takes away too much joy
     
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  13. Melvok

    Melvok F1 World Champ
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    Takes away Burt ?

    Do I not understand it right ? (Semantics ?) :D
     
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  14. babwine

    babwine Karting

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    Not sure what you mean. I am saying that driving under the speed limit takes away all the joy of driving. Not advocating driving 100 in a 40 mph zone, but somewhat over that would probably get you a ticket if you were stopped


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  15. daytona355

    daytona355 F1 World Champ
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    I use a Target 300 laser jammer, and valentine 1. Awesome, has saved me a number of times!


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  16. Melvok

    Melvok F1 World Champ
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    Semantics: DUTSL = driving under the speed limit :) ?

    Thought you meant a brand of speedjammer or so ... sorry !
     
  17. waterking

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    So. Do you have a formula? Posted 40mph + 35%=Ferrari Nirvana possibly? I live in a metroplex area and anyone going 10 miles over the posted limit(the "fuzz" usually allows 5 locally) is very dangerous to the rest of the traffic. Add to that the fact that the car is a Ferrari and most people stare...well...it may be in your best interest to use DUTSL more and not to make sure other drivers create an issue. As a matter of fact, if I am in my 488 and driving in a 40 mph zone and see you coming up behind me at 60...chances are I am going to avoid you as much as possible and engage my DUTSL. Point is...do you use open roads to experience the joy of driving a Ferrari or do you allow a radar detector to dictate how you drive around other folks? Detectors are great on an open highway but is that where the fun of driving a Ferrari comes from. Speed in a Ferrari has never dictated my enjoyment of the car...how the car handles does that and that handling can be experienced at most any speed...if you have the right road.

    All the preaching aside...the V1 is good as long as you can deal with the false alarms...the 360 Max is good but not as good as the V1 and the others I have tried fell far behind both concerning early warning capabilities and false alarm issues.
     
  18. babwine

    babwine Karting

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    Wow. Don't know where you live but must be pretty boring no matter what car you drive. FYI, I am not advocating driving recklessly or in any way endangering other motorists or more importantly, myself. Virtuallyy every car goes over the speed limit and getting a ticket for going 50 in 40 ruins anyone's day and the likelihood that the ticket is given to a Ferrari is exponentially greater than a ford escape getting pulled over going the same speed. Unless you are doing hairpin turns on a track, driving even a Ferrari at 25 mph is hardly exhilarating. As I said before, why drive a Ferrari if DUTSL is your normal driving.
     
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  19. waterking

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    Most city driving IS boring. And I buy Ferrari's for what I can do in them when it is safe for me and others. I do not buy them so that I can drive 35% over the speed limit on a six lane road full of yahoo's on their phones. Most of my friends in this "boring" city drive the same way. They value their cars and lives more than they do a sudden exhilarating moment on the drive home. We save our white knuckle experiences for the track or closed driving situations. Not boring, my friend, just smart.
     
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  20. JimPVB

    JimPVB Formula Junior

    Apr 24, 2016
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    Not taking a position for, or against, either argument being made here, just pointing out my own experience and how it changed my thinking. Obviously these cars are fast, they're designed to be fast, and to some extent we buy them because they're fast. Some owners are fine just knowing those capabilities, and they drive accordingly, rarely pushing the car to any high speeds. Others want to experience some of the excitement these cars can generate. In some locations we can do that at a track, in others, there is no track available. When there is no track available we risk the natural dangers of a public road, coupled with the possibility of a ticket, and in some jurisdictions jail time if certain speed limits are exceeded. There are times when we are on public roads and there is no traffic, or traffic is just not a factor, and the only risk we are assuming is injury (or death) to ourselves, or the ticket/jail possibility. It is a radar/laser detector that helps protect us from the latter, and we all understand it has no direct impact on the possibility of injury.

    So...to the point of injury (or worse), within a couple of months of owning my first Ferrari I was on what I defined as one of those roads where traffic was "just not a factor," until it was..... There was only ONE car, an SUV, within half a mile or more, left lane of a 3 lane road, probably going the speed limit while I was easily exceeding it. I anticipated they would see me coming and move over, but if not, my plan was to move all the way to the right lane to pass. As I approached, it appeared the SUV did not see me so I began the shift to the right. Simultaneously, the SUV realized I was there and started the same move to the right. When the driver realized i was moving over, they panicked, jerked the SUV back to the left, lost control and spun the car in the road, coming to a stop without having hit anything. I stopped, backed up, and got out to check on them and apologize. After being assured they were fine, but obviously shaken up, I returned to my car and sat there for awhile thinking about what had just happened. It was a Mom driving the SUV, she had two very young children in car seats in the back seat. I sat there thinking about all the possible outcomes.....

    I could explain further that she unnecessarily panicked, I was probably 10+ car lengths behind her when it happened, but what judgment would I be making there, is she supposed to be "race skilled," was she required to anticipate my driving? We cannot rely on the actions of the average driver on the road, YouTube provides numerous examples of this everyday, so for me personally driving is a lot slower when ANY cars are visible, or side streets are present.....but when they're not.....my Escort gear is a little reassuring.


    Jim
     
  21. babwine

    babwine Karting

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    Waterking, am jealous that you can park your Ferrari and just look at it in the garage save for the few times a year you get to track it. Just to set the conversation straight, I am not suggesting we act like Mario whenever or wherever we drive. But let's be real here. Driving say on I-95 in south FL with a 65 MPH speed limit, other than high traffic times, most cars in the passing lane (and others) are tooling around at 80 or more. Not saying that's OK or safe, but just reality. Again, I point out that even on local roads, almost every car exceeds the speed limit, whether it be 25, 35, 45 or whatever. A cop pointing a gun always has a wide choice of cars to pull over and ticket and you can bet your behind 9 out of 10 times it will be the red hot Ferrari or Porsche or Lambo. So, given that reality, why not have a good radar/jammer? And, BTW, the most fun is not necessarily how fast you go, but how quickly you get to how fast you go. Loads more thrills coming down the ON ramp onto a highway and, traffic permitting, getting to 70-80 MPH in a couple of seconds than just driving at those speeds.
     
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  22. JimPVB

    JimPVB Formula Junior

    Apr 24, 2016
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    That's what I've found on I95 as well, if I did the speed limit (or under) I'd probably get run over, especially in South FL, and yes, it's certainly easier to target an exotic, and I guess on some level that's expected, which is exactly why, my story aside, I use the Escort.



    Jim
     
  23. babwine

    babwine Karting

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    Jim

    I just spoke with an installer and he is recommending the Escort Max ci 360 (the 9500 ci is no longer produced), but with ALP Jammers. Which model escort do you have and are you pleased with the performance, limited false alarms, etc.?
     
  24. JimPVB

    JimPVB Formula Junior

    Apr 24, 2016
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    I'm using the Escort iX, I've not experienced any problems with it, but the auto learning of false alarms could be better, at some locations I had to experience them half a dozen times before they were shut out. Too lazy to do a manual control. The laser function worked for me several times, and I do not have a jammer. just the range of the iX. No tickets yet.


    Jim
     
  25. JimPVB

    JimPVB Formula Junior

    Apr 24, 2016
    649
    Florida
    That is one of the simple plug and play models (I attach to windshield w/standard suction cup), obviously the better solution is the fully installed front and rear systems, especially for long road trips and "spirited" driving (I think that's the term being used these days).

    Jim
     

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