Question about Ferrari F40 LM??

They were/are race cars. Some have been made road legal in certain country's. Also many road going f40's wear lm body work to further confuse people. I think 720 hp is a believable number.

 

All the LMs were based on road cars before conversion, the early chassis were original road car prototypes I believe.

In period I do not think any hit the public roads post conversion, but in a thread below, one has since been road registered in the UK.

I doubt that with limited lock, race brakes and suspension etc they are anywhere nice to drive on the road though as an original f40.

The best option is a road car with LM bodywork and wheels, which seems a very popular post factory spec in Japan.

The last known LM spec engine to hit the dyno would be Tims and from memory it runs in the lower range of the hp you quote.

 

Here is the full F40 LM list: (Most buildsheet shows F40 Corsa as tipo)
79890, Michelotto 1
79891, Michelotto 2
88521, Michelotto 3
88513, Michelotto 4
88520, Michelotto 5
88522, Michelotto 6
88523, Michelotto 7
88524, Michelotto 8
92235, Michelotto 9
92236, Michelotto 10
92237, Michelotto 11
92238, Michelotto 12
74045, Michelotto 13
95448, Michelotto 14
95449, Michelotto 15
97881, Michelotto 16
97893, Michelotto 18
97904, Michelotto 19
99401, Michelotto 20

Michelotto 17 was not allocated

GTE:

7 cars incl 1 F40 LM converted into a GTE

74045, Michelotto 13 (LM number) ex F40 LM, F40 pre-production prototype
90001, Michelotto 1 (GTE number)
82404, Michelotto 2 (GTE number, on F40LM frame)
94362, Michelotto 3 (GTE number) ex GT
85015, Michelotto 4 (GTE number)
88779, Michelotto 5 (GTE number)
84503, Michelotto 6 (GTE number)

F40 GT, 7 cars

74047, F40 pre-production prototype (IIRC TO ASHES now)
79922
80742
84642
88203
90508
94362 (now a GTE, see above)

All other cars are conversions done by teams and tuning companies.
They should not be called "F40LM"

 

Were all of the LM road cars, meaning that Michelotto used an existing road F40 and then stripped it and converted it to LM or did they used F40's chassis # and built the LMs on what was just an F40 chassis number but no actual F40?

 

In a recent conversation with Michelotto regarding the feasibility of now putting together an original LM conversion kit as per the 19 factory cars, it was described as originally a 2000 man-hour conversion with the car partly assembled (body panels, suspension, engine/gearbox, fuel tanks etc all out). I was warned that it would be significantly more work if starting from a fully assembled car (as is likely to be the case starting today). So my guess is that, the LMs started life at the factory as regular F40s, and were pulled off the line before completion and shipped to Michelotto. Also guessing the privateer "LM-style" conversions started with full cars and then had the kit applied.

 

At least 20 LM frames were built

 

Thank you for this Tom.

 

Period pics of an LM being built

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79891, the 2nd Pozzi car, now road registered and was on the "tour" when the F40 Prototype was toasted.

 

Got it. Thanks vm for the super-useful summary as well.

Michelotto made the same point. Some of the Japanese private conversions only used a part of his LM-kit, and the rest came from local specialists. Apparently the private LM-conversion business is having a second wind - demand from the Middle East and Asia.

 

Thank you Tom! So it really is built from scratch when people say 1 of the 19 Michelottos. Really built by Michelotto.

 

Great info Tom

 

That is interesting, you would think it would be the reverse with LM lookalike spec road cars going back to standard as they get more valuable. I know the white one is now back to normal road spec albeit blue in colour! I wonder what happened to those LM panels.

 

90001 is imho the best F40 racer you can own.
Italian GT, BPR series, Le Mans 3x
I saw het sister 82404 a few years ago at Michelotto, a beauty as well. Sadly they (incl 90001) were modified when refursbished and sprayed in resale red...
These cars should be in their Ennea Igol livery...but that is just taste
I do not know what engines are in them but they had few types incl 3.5L
And to be honest a 458 or 488 GT racer built in large numbers will never come close to the ultimate F40

 

#90001 with the green patches front and rear or was that 99401?

 

Question about #83405. Appears to have been a GTE with racing Ennea but doesn't appear in list in @tomgt post #4

Any info on this car which might explain why?

 

A yellow F40 LM was in the Coys auction paddock inside the Autosport International show in Birmingham.

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http://www.speedhunters.com/2018/01/1-5million-blowout-asi-2018/

 

see https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/a-1million-ferrari-f40-racer-will-headline-at-auction.567393

According to someone I know who was there it was apparently a no sale in the end, despite eariier reporting

Not an real LM anyway

 

According to this article:

https://www.anamera.com/en/editorial/article/news/the-london-classic-car-show-the-centenaries-of-bentley-and-citroen-were-celebrated/index.html?no_cache=1&tx_ttnews[backPid]=226&cHash=636eec042c

and the Coys Twitter page, 80782 was included in the auction last week at the London Classic Car Show. The car does not appear in the Coys online auction catologue though and a quick search online does not bring up anything either.

Does anyone know if Coys sold the car this time?

 

This is not a proper answer to your question, but a couple of days after the auction, Coys tweeted with a picture of the car as the hall was being cleared with the title "Time to take the old warrior home"

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Perhaps still unsold? If so, quite possibly, it will re-appear at Autofficina in Surrey where it was advertised after it failed to sell at Coys' Autosport 2018.

 

Is that an LM or just a prepared F40?

 

Thanks Barry. I had seen that post and thought it could be that the car was not sold, or that it was time for the new owner to take the car home.

 

It is an F40 racing conversion. As we have seen in the past, some of these conversions have been claimed to be LM, LM spec etc. This car was converted by Kroymans/Cavallino Racing and then further work was done by G-Tex in the UK. Nothing to do with Michelotto LM. The car has quite an extensive and interesting racing history, however.

As you can see, even the last seller had ditched the LM claims unlike Coys...