Purosangue: article says Ferrari worries about it being TOO successful

I know this car is blasphemy to many here. I personally don't care as long as the $$$ it brings means more money for F1, Icona, Hypercars, and the 296/SF90 successors.

After all, the Urus didn't mean the end of Lamborghini and the Macan didn't mean the end of Porsche - on the contrary...

 

Purosangue takes Ferrari to a higher level… higher weight, higher center of gravity, higher drag coefficient, higher fuel consumption. But agree Ferrari has no choice but to pursue this lucrative segment.

 

I dont know about that, my 456 does a pretty terrible job of Fuel consumption, i imagine any more modern car, even one heavier is going to have better MPG

 

The Urus makes up 2/3 of Lambo production with 5k units. 2000 units will be very easy-* Say at 300k a pop that’s 600 million boxes of ziti a year.

*with the recession here, probably not.

 

**** off Ferrari, most of us dont give a ******** what you do , or what you sell, your brand is tarnished forever, and its not coming back no matter what you sell, or how many you sell, good grief.

Thank you ,

 

That will be the main problem with this car. It will be too good, and it will stick around as a main model forever. I die a little inside knowing that this... vehicle.... will be in production.

However I am a minority. This is all anyone wants these days and I will admit- I am a little curious about it. Especially if it races Dakar.

 

Ive never understood falling in love with a company. You can fall in love with a specific product. You can even fall in love with a companies specific leadership at a certain period in time.

But to fall in love with a company in general, is bizarre to me.

What you loved wasnt a company, it was a leader. All of us loved Enzos reign at the company he founded. Many of us loved Montezemolo's time at the company.

Its about the PEOPLE at the company. A company isnt a sentient being, and so much of the talk makes it sound as if y'all think it is.

There are now new people at the company, have been for a while, and you can like what they are doing, or not, but its NOT the company you are liking or hating, its the people. And people come and go, as should your love or dislike of a company.

 

Do we know what chassis it's based on? Jeep?.. Maserati? ..Shortend Ram chassis?

Or is it all new.. I do like the v12 idea..that will make the lambo audi Q8/urus thing seem weak..

 

Dakar?
If it sprouts a 2 foot lift kit, maybe, I'm sure they will never go there.

 

When I hear the seller of a product say they are too worried about a product’s success, I detect the faint whiff of bs in the air.

Maybe what they really mean is that they worry that it will become so common it will ruin the brand (which it will).

 

While I disagree, I appreciate your honesty. A lot of people here lately have been less than open about their disdain for Ferrari.

 

Guess you never heard of sports fans. Though, I guess I can understand your confusion if somebody loves the Cleaveland Browns.

I believe you though, that if a company makes you a millionaire, that company would engender zero...good feelings from you. Maybe love is too strong a word - perhaps - affinity?

 

Yes, I die that the Macan, Cayenne, and Panamera are 'too good.'

It really ruins the Porsche 918 and the whole GT2 series. Porsche is dead.

In fact, all that money is making them so bad, that their proposed re-entry into Formula 1 will be doom for them forever.

Lamborghini Urus? = Of course it will make the next Aventador garbage. 100% guarantee.
Lotus shift on SUVs? = makes the Emira a piece of poo.
Maserati = The MC20? diarrhea, why? Levante
AF = Guilia QF mTA? = puke = Tonale.
Ford GT? = crap = cuz of ford Escape - we all know
Corvette? = yuck = the Escalade ensures that.

Even Mclaren is on the boat, so pour one out for your P1 and 765LT - they are now both certifiably stinky.

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But we know this I all about some supposed purity right? Then the FF and 2+2s should have halved Ferrari sales and destroyed the F40 + Pista...(hmmm)

But then again, there are literally a ton of folks here that argue the La Ferrari is a boring car that killed Ferrari.

Strange world we live in.

 

I know right? Porsche...who?


Who they?

Oh - that company that used to make Nurburgring breaking records and fast cars, that decided to make SUVs, and now they no longer do that or are known for making good sports cars.

I think they changed the designation from 911 to 0. The last record they broke? Deep Fake.

Oh man, I won't even go into their shift to electric, it would make some folks here absolutely apoplectic.

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In all seriousness, I get why this is all happening, at first I was curious why so many Ferrari enthusiasts are ready to eat their own.

The deeper I got, my theory confirmed.

 

Thank you Sir

 

No problem, I have a motto. It's always better to honestly disagree, vs forcing consensus.

 

I myself am not in the corner of " making an SUV is going to ruin said cars from said companies " But for Ferrari to worry about what people think about them , to me , is pretty childish . We all know whatever Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche , etc, are about , all comes down to money, and a " want to be all things to all people" , with lots of money to burn . I think that is a fair statement. And besides, like one other here mentioned, its more money, because they just cant spend enough of it to buy an World F1 title these days . We all will have to deal with even more bad drivers in SUVs , now they will be in 4000 pound Ferraris. I wonder how soon the You Tube Videos will start popping up , with colorful previews showing FUVs wrapped around trees and such, watch out !! lol Most of these FUVs will end up in California, so most of you folks who live elsewhere wont see a huge change in the driving landscape.

Thank you

 

this is all fun banter.

that’s said what I’ve been seeing is the macro angst on the accelerating world being projected. I’ve always wondered how it was like to deal with Luddites during the industrial revolution. Now I know.

 

I had to re read a couple of times, now I know what you mean, interesting . I never would have thought of that, it makes perfect sense to me. I love the banter anyhow, something always good comes out of it , here on the Forum.

Thank you ,

 

And just "down the road", in a few years, 5,500+ pound "all electric" FUVs...yikes!

 

Why down the road? Heavy SUVs are already here and destroying even some recent sports cars on track. Electrification will only make them perform better.

Cognitive dissonance.

Person A: I hate SUVs

Person B: Why?

Person A: Cuz people that buy them do so based on feelings, they are not pure sports cars.

Person B: What if an SUV is faster on a track than your sports car?


Person A: I still hate them

Person B: Why?

Person A: Cuz it feels wrong.

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You know it's 2023 next year?

 

I didnt say people dont love, or have affinity, for a company. I said I dont get it when they do. And i dont. I dont get sports fans either.

I loved Ferrari as a company when Montezemolo was in charge. But when he left new people came in, so it was no longer the same company, and I then had to reevaluate this new version of the company to see if i liked it.

And I didnt.

To me, continuing to love a company, after the leadership you loved leaves, is like continuing to love your ex after she remarries. Completely bizarre to me.

 

Well, two things, right? You asked how someone could love a company - I think I've sufficiently answered that question. You do know Ferrari is a sports team as well?

As for the second point, we are in agreement.

You don't like Ferrari today.

That's what I'm been saying. (see above)

See - people can agree around here.