Be sure to watch all the drag races and the roll races (the Puro driver isn’t the greatest). The Puro is very fast!
You think 11.9 1/4 mile is very fast? The Puro driver used launch control and just pulled paddles, doesn't get much easier and less skilled than that. Plus that driver won the UK Ferrari challenge championship a few times. For reverence and M5 CS does a 10.4 1/4 mile ( a 2000kg 4 door, 4 wheel drive seats 4 adults with luggage)..
Not under the same conditions and certainly not in the same class. The Purosangue is the fastest high riding vehicle in existence.
I’ve been drag racing all my life and I guarantee I know a lot more about it than you. The fastest non-EV super SUVs in the world (Puro, Urus, Turbo GT, DBX, IX M60, Bantayga) are ALL running in the 11’s. Some have run low 11’s on drag strips, just like the Puro will when it is actually tested on one. Carwow uses a slick airstrip for their tests so their times are always slower than dragstrip tests. Furthermore, you keep trying to compare a SUV to sedans and wagons that weigh far less. The M5 CS is a super sedan (NOT a SUV) that weighs a whopping 900 lbs less than the Puro. The level of absolute clueless you constantly display is mind-boggling.
Drag racing is the most boring and low skill form of motorsports their is. So why is the Puro so tall, heavy and shaped like an SUV? It can't go offroad and it can't even tow! Do you not get that the whole concept it flawed engineering for the sake of fashion..
Hmm, I think either you missed his whole point or you just don't have a sound rebuttal... Comparing a M5 CS to a SUV to support your claim of PS is not fast is just, fill in the blank here please.
?? Wow. Let me try a different approach. The Puro is Ferrari’s luxury-sports SUV. That’s why it’s tall, heavy, and yes it can indeed go off road. It directly competes against the Urus, Cayenne GT, DBX, and Bentayga. These SUVs are designed for speed, handling and luxury within the limitations of their weight and height. No one is taking these super SUVs off-road, even though they could handle some mild stuff without issue. The Puro is NOT a 4-runner, Bronco, Jeep, Range Rover, etc., competitor, as those are true “off-road” SUVs. They are designed to handle very challenging off-road situations, but they are NOT fast, are not luxurious (relatively speaking), and don’t handle well on pavement. The Puro is also NOT a sedan or wagon, so it is NOT competing against M5s, M8s, Panameras, RS7s, Bentleys, AMG sedans, RS6 Avant, etc. Super sedans/wagons are much lighter (so they are faster with similar HP), lower to the ground which makes them more nimble, but have less headroom for passengers and a lower overall ride height which is something a lot of SUV fans (like me) want. People buy a ton of SUVs instead of sedans and wagons for a reason. People buy luxury SUVs for a reason. I personally prefer luxury SUVs as my daily drivers over anything else. The Urus and Cayenne are Lamborghini’s and Porsches’ most popular models, which clearly illustrates the popularity of luxury SUVs. The most technologically advanced, most beautiful, and most exciting (due to the V12) super SUV is the Puro in my and many other’s opinions. That’s why we are buying them. Whether you personally like them or not has absolutely no influence on our decisions I’ve just made a serious attempt to teach you something with this post, since you’ve made it very clear that you really don’t know anything about the Puro, or what it’s actually designed for, so I guess we’ll see if it actually made a dent.
How many luxury SUV's are being taken off road? 90% of them do not leave the tarmac. I would argue the exact opposite Ferrari understands the demographic exactly and the manner in which the demographic would use the vehicle and caters to that exact purpose by making the car more suitable for tarmac use without trying to compromise it for off road use, they made the best handling, fastest, best sounding, sportiest, stylish, ground up chassis and platform with a proprietary V12 SUV which comfortably sits four, they made it for Ferrari enthusiasts would want to add it to their fleet or for Ferrari enthusiasts which can only have a one car garage and really want a Ferrari. Ferrari even tells you that it is not a fully fledged off road vehicle by giving it a different name FUV, by not using off roading in their marketing material except some gravel roads light usage, they are also not showing it doing drag racing but you and the rest of the hater brigade insist on crying about the fact that the car isn't something that Ferrari themselves is telling you that it is not meant to be LOL I love free speech but after you have made your point, if you do not like the car and you clearly don't, how hard is it for you to zip it, keep it to yourself and move on with your life, let the people who actually like the model and share a common interest discuss it in peace? Why do you guys insist on contaminating every thread with the same regurgitated irrelevant nonsense? I really don't get it. This is a car forum not an airport, constant announcements and reminders aren't really required or necessary if you feel compelled to announce it to the public all the time just put it in your signature so everyone can read it, that way you spare us of your constant reminders and you save yourself some time. As for all the Mazda comments, so silly, I drive mine daily and most people are paying it a lot of compliments to the point where I am considering to stop using it because I want my daily to be relatively inconspicuous, I ordered a black car for that reason I thought it would blend in but the car still stands out everywhere I go which I don't really want.
I think you missed the point. The M5 CS and Puro do exactly the same job. The whole Super SUV thing is a flawed concept, especially when the SUV's in question can't do SUV things, but carry all the disadvantages that SUV's have ( weight, centre of gravity, packaging, aero, design).
No. You are missing the point. If they did the exact same job, there would be no such thing as SUVs. Like millions of other people, I will always choose a SUV over a sedan. That's why Porsche's most popular model(s) is not the Panamera (sedan), it's the Cayenne and Macan (both SUVs). Whether you like or agree with the concept is irrelevant. You're still wrong.
It ran a 11.3 on a different day under different conditions and at a different location. In a head to head race (which is all that matters), on the same track under the same conditions, I suspect the Puro will be slightly faster than the DBX 707 and Cayenne Turbo GT. I’m sure we’ll find out soon.
Well from my experience you won't knock .6s off the time under different conditions. People think a black top is slick but it's surprisingly grippy. I have a county road that I go out to where it's more ore less the same surface they were using in this race. I got better 60ft times there than I did at Marion (San Antonio Raceway) even though they stickied up the surface for us. You need the right tires and regular sport tires don't do well on a drag strip. However, I am not going to argue too much because I plan to own both. I am about to trade my RR for the DBX707 while I wait on a build slot for the Puro.
I am getting the urus performante and the dealer is getting me the last allocation available in 2 weeks. We did not get the urus at the beginning because the drive was disappointing to us... Plus my wife really enjoyed her FF and Lusso. Then test drove the Purosangue for hours. Decided to give Lambo a chance again and we were pleasantly surprised with how different the performante is.
SF90 has gone .6 seconds faster on other tracks compared to Carwow’s. Also have to consider temperature, humidity, and the type of fuel that is used (octane level). Way too many variables to make an assumption the 707 is faster based on that video. *Lastly, and most importantly, Car and Driver ran a 11.2 @ 122 in a Urus Performante, but the Urus Perf only ran a 11.9 here. That’s a difference of 7/10s. Not only that that, the Performante has already shown itself it to be faster than the DBX 707 (11.2 vs 11.3), but Perf lost to the Puro head to head. Doesn’t get much more clear than that!
Hahahahaha!!! Exactly! The idea of a “high performance” station wagon or sedan is utterly ridiculous! Get a real sports car! Hahahahahaha!!!! Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
It's not me saying that a lower centre of gravity, less aerodynamic drag, more aerodynamic downforce and less weight is better for a performance car, its basic physics.
Wow. Thanks. No one in here was aware of that until you just explained it for us, haha. Also, SUVs aren’t performance cars. They’re performance SUVs. Regardless, many (most) people prefer SUVs over sedans. Especially when we already own true sports cars and want to add a more practical vehicle to the line up. In the US, SUVs make up 47.4% of all auto sales, while sedans only make up 22.1%. And your arguments aren’t going to impact that fact in any way whatsoever.
