Prototype GTE warning from Ferrari

Porsche in F1?! You mean their engines; they didn't race F1. You can't sell an engine to mainstream consumers.

 

"Porsche in F1?! You mean their engines; they didn't race F1."

Try again. I guess I'm imagining Dan's other F1 win.
One shouldn't be so sure of themselves when they lack the knowledge.
(Suggestion: Do some research before you test someone's knowledge if you're not sure of something, it's less embarrassing.)


"You can't sell an engine to mainstream consumers."

Wow!!! Your quite alert! We need more lerts.
That was my point. So why did they do it? According to you, if you can't race/sell specific models, there's no reason to race.

Enuff on this. Your too easy.

 

Speaking of doing research, note that Dan Gurney won 4 F1 championship races: 2 in Brabhams, 1 in a Porsche, and 1 in the Eagle Weslake. He also won 3 non-championship races. The Porsche win remains, to-date, the only championship GP win in a Porsche chassis. (And yes, I do know Porsche-engined cars won a ton of GP races.)

 

Absolutely correct. My research is from my memory (which admittedly is not what it once was ) In my rush to respond, upon reading the e-mail notification, all I thought of was his victory at Spa in his own car, which is what he's famous for, and plumb forgot about the Brabham victories. I stand corrected.

 

One of the nicest most gracious persons I have ever known.

 

Only met up with him once at Sebring, many years ago. Port Jeff(erson, NY), both our birthplaces, cranks out some decent folk, I have to admit.

 

And, Lorenzo, the only way I remembered Dan's wins is because I am the world's biggest Dan Gurney fan. Well, maybe not his family, but ...

 

Take your place in line David!
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Ah yes. Ye olde "Dan Gurney for president!"....

edit: Just the bubble? Where's the rest of the MkIV kit???

 

I surrender. heed to your superior knowledge.
I still think Ford DON'T have a strategy with their GT racing. At least translating to sales of their cars - not the limited edition ones which don't even pay 1 years racing cost.

 

You've made yourself quite clear.

And my position remains corporate image. Let it go at that. It's old.

(Pssstttt...it's "DOESN'T" )

 

Ford.... Corporate image... high end endurance racing.. Le Mans... What a joke! Tell me if anyone believes FORD is a racing marque. Ha ha ha... Here in the U S A, it's main profit maker is a TRUCK -F150. Got one too. Get real please.

 

Hittin' the sauce again, huh?

"Corporate image... high end endurance racing.."
(Pssstttt...GTLM and GTE is not "high end" )

"Le Mans... What a joke!"
Okay.

"Tell me if anyone believes FORD is a racing marque."
Let's see...NASCAR (cars and trucks), IMSA and FIA/ACO endurance, drag racing, Indycar, rallying, F1...etc., etc. etc.
No, I guess not. No history of racing there... What was I thinking???
Do you think perhaps there's any other possible image for the brand?
Easy now, don't hurt yourself.
Maybe, just maybe, t-e-c-h-n-o-l-o-g-y. Try sounding it out slowly, I know, it's a big word....
Naaahhh, imposseebla. Ford runs "trucks" in the Camping World series...no "tech" there.

"Get real please."
I'll try. Next time.

 

Are you serious? Ford has competed in, and forgotten about, more races and series than Ferrari has or ever will. That type of comment may fly with people who know nothing about racing, but it's "what a joke" to those who know even a smidgen of Ford's history. You should pay more attention to what your friend on this forum is telling you.

By the way, nice job demonstrating every stereotype about Ferrari aficionados.

 

You're both grasping at straws to suggest FORD is a serious racing brand. Ford is a truck company in America based on perception and no aspiring race car driver would dream to drive for 'Ford'. Mustang is a brand with sound performance pedigree and a race/performance following. That's my point.

 

I know you know better, so let me ask. Why would no-names like Jim Clark, Dan Gurney, A J Foyt, Mario Andretti, Bruce McLaren, David Pearson, Mark Martin, etc., etc., etc. drive Fords when lowly wanna be up and comers know that Ford is not a racing participant?

Please, I'm really trying to understand something that I thought I knew a little about for the past 50+ years yet you can enlighten me and I can become aware of my misguided thoughts on the sport.

I was asked here early on, and I guess I understand why, what my credentials are/were. I thought it rather silly as I had just arrived but so be it. Me, I rather read and absorb and I find in your case, it's just not there. I've read enough of your posts to perceive that you don't know that much about racing. If I'm wrong, please do, elaborate.

 

You're wasting your time. Several Mark Twain quotes come to mind.

 

I know you're right. 'Can't help myself, such is my passion (and it's genetic ).

Not being well read (I read, 'just that 'soon as I figured out racin' was my passion, it's pretty much all I read about, when I could find any... ) please gimme some quotes. About all I know about Twain I got from an episode of "The Rifleman"
Seriously, tho', private message 'em to me if you'd prefer. I'd enjoy. (always willing to listen and learn rather than spew mis-info )

 

A couple of my personal favorites:

Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt.

 

Agree. Lorenzo should just keep silent and not bash everyone to prove he is right all the time. Telling a FERRARI board that Ford is a prestige racing marque is just ...
I've said he is right ... all the time. And I'm entitled to my opinion that FORD is not recognized top racing equity. Jim Clark, Guerney et al he mentions would be rolling in their respective graves being touted as FORD racers (not Lotus or other marques) in their tombstones. Rather like saying Shumi is an Arrows racer.

 

Dan Gurney is still alive, is a good friend, is extremely proud of his historic past, present and on going relationship with Ford racing, owns a '05 Ford GT and is getting a 2017 GT. Jimmy Clark is long since dead and so should be this particular subject in this thread.

 

I'm terribly sorry for this awkward miscue. I'm stopping here now truly apologetic.
Gurney is such an icon too so please accept my sincere apologies.

 

You should memorize the second Mark Twain quote.