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PRODUCTION NUMBERS 1985 1986 SINGLE MIRROR TESTAROSSA

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  1. circleind

    circleind Karting

    Jan 31, 2007
    136
    It looks to be between 59501 to 59861. I have other numbers that are not listed on this thread. I'am only listing the the ones I receive on this thread as I'am spending more time on the flying mirror site. Ron
     
  2. fuentesa3

    fuentesa3 Rookie

    Jun 15, 2007
    24
    Houston, Texas
    Full Name:
    Arturo
    ZFFTA17B000057269, single mirror, single lug, red/tan, just under 37000miles, no mods, Euro version, listed as 86 but from what I've seen may be an 85, Houston, Texas. Originally imported to Ferrari of Houston. Car went to Mexico City, then California, now I bought it recently and brought it back home to Houston.
     
  3. RoccoM

    RoccoM Formula Junior

    Oct 6, 2007
    421
    Richmond Hill, ONT
    Full Name:
    Rocco M
    85 Testarossa 56047 red/black Euro Spec. Toronto, Ontario, Canada (the car is originally Swiss, came to Canada in 2000) All original (except Tubi Exaust). I'd love to see the website up and running. Great idea to who ever started this. BTW the Testarossa value has climbed two times in the last four months as per Cavillino Magazine. Also, if you want an idea on the production numbers, start asking people for the engine number (mine is 00121). This number will be more sequential than the chassis number and will give you a better idea of the production numbers.
     
  4. jselevan

    jselevan Formula 3

    Nov 2, 2003
    1,873
    Rocco - please do not tell me that Testarossa prices are climbing. I just sold my 1986!

    I do have a question a bit off topic. The new owner just drove it home. I have not been concerned about the high oil pressure and the low oil temperature. He inquired as to whether this is normal.

    What is the experience with other Flying Mirror owners? Do you also see high oil pressure and low oil temperatures?


    Jim S.
     
  5. RoccoM

    RoccoM Formula Junior

    Oct 6, 2007
    421
    Richmond Hill, ONT
    Full Name:
    Rocco M
    My experience has always been high oil pressure (around 1/2 to 3/4 marking) and low oil temp. My Ferrari mechanic has driven the car several times and never mentioned it. I'm sorry to hear you sold your TR, but yes I believe the price will either rise or stay steady. I still believe that these are great cars. If you ask anyone what Ferrari model comes to your mind first, it's usually Testarossa! That can't be a bad thing. Are you still going to continue with the registry or are you looking for someone to take it over. I'm very interested in the history of these cars and do research whenever I can. Some Testarossa's have some amazing stories behind them!
     
  6. jselevan

    jselevan Formula 3

    Nov 2, 2003
    1,873
    Rocco - thanks for the reply concerning oil pressure and temperature. I would love to hear from others concerning their oil pressure and temperature readings (mine were always high oil pressure, low temperature).

    By the way, I cannot take credit for this nascent Flying Mirror Registry. I really had nothing to do with it other than provide my car's data. The new owner, given his permission, I am sure will provide his data.

    I believe that this registry was a collective effort, although circleind seems to have taken the lead and provided most of the sweat equity.

    Jim S.
     
  7. testarob

    testarob F1 Rookie

    May 13, 2006
    2,504
    Debary, Florida
    Full Name:
    Rob
    If you oil temperature is low you aren't driving it hard enough!
     
  8. circleind

    circleind Karting

    Jan 31, 2007
    136
    Hi folks, I just got back from the ALMS race at Laguna Seca, It was great! As an aside the ferrari club from Monterey showed up on Sat. All of the ferraris there were 430's,360's 599's and 612's. The only different ferrari was a 89 or later Testarossa and did it stand out from the crowd! I'am working on the web site and will have a way to include engine numbers and other info. I'am only updating the numbers I receive on this thread to this list. Ron
    54453 1985 RED/BL cloth
    54635 1985 RED/TAN dealer
    54641 1985 RED/TAN Helmut
    54643 1985 RED/TAN
    54879 1985 RED/RED
    55033 1985 RED/CREAM Ron Woods (You think?)
    55151 1985 RED/TAN dealer
    55347 1985 RED/BLACK dealer
    55349 1985 RED/BLACK dealer
    55475 1985 RED/BLACK
    55783 1985 RED/RED (Now white in 2000 Zandvoot)
    55787 1985 RED/RED
    56039 1985 RED/BLACK
    56047 1985 RED/BLACK EURO RoccoM Toronto
    56219 1985 RED/BLACK Italy
    56221 1985 RED/BLACK 21000m exhaust EURO prova85/MA
    56223 1985 RED/RED
    56303 1985 RED/RED converted by Konig
    56503 1985 NERO/WHITE dealer
    56593 1985 NERO/TAN Italy
    56677 1985 RED/TAN
    56741 1985 RED/TAN
    56953 1985 RED/BLACK
    56955 1985 RED/RED
    56957 1985 NERO/BLACK Italy
    56959 1985 NERO/TAN IN US
    56963 1985 RED/CREAM IN US
    57083 1985 RED/RED
    57117 1985 NERO/BLACK IN US
    57269 1985 RED/TAN Euro fuentesa3 Houston, Texas
    57389 1985 RED/TAN
    57393 1985 BLUE/TAN
    57413 1985 RED/TAN
    57535 1985 RED/BLACK IN US
    57535 1985 RED/BLACK IN US
    57777 1985 RED/TAN
    57783 1985 RED/TAN IN US
    57859 1985 BLACK/TAN EURO in US
    57951 1985 RED/TAN
    58001 1985 RED/TAN 24000m Factory Cats. US Circleind / SoCal
    58549 1985 RED/RED
    58561 1985 RED/RED
    58908 1985 RED/RED
    59329 1985 RED/TAN
    59927 1985 RED/BLACK IN US
    60141 1986 RED/CREAM 48000m Stock US gabriel
    60447 1986 RED/TAN 22000m Stock US James Woods / Dallas
    60665 1986 RED/BLACK 39000 Stock ? Big Red / ?
    60843 1986 RED/TAN
    61135 1986 RED/CREAM RHD tessmania/Ireland
    61305 1985 RED/TAN 30000k CH spec SWISS RJMUELLER/Germany
    61723 1986 RED/TAN 44000k Stock CANADA
    61951 1986 RED/TAN 37000 US khayes/Texas
    61955 1986 RED/TAN 36000k Double flying mirrors Anthony bently/London
    62003 1986 RED/RED
    62039 1986 RED/RED (Now black in spa 2000)
    62113 1986 RED/TAN 42000m RSKDSK/GA
    62369 1986 RED/TAN 8000m US dealer/MN
    62567 1986 WHITE BLUE 27500m US eogorman
    62619 1986 RED/TAN
    63251 1986 RED/RED
    63465 1986 BLACK/TAN 33000m Stock US jselevan/SoCal
    64051 1986 SILVERTAN SWISS
    64057 1986 RED/TAN EURO
    64101 1986 RED/RED
    64873 1986 RED/TAN US ASG 86TR/NJ
    64925 1986 RED/TAN 62000m US testarob/Florida
    64983 1986 RED/TAN
    64989 1986 RED/BLACK 48000m RHD ENGLAND Godber
    65303 1986 RED/RED (Now Silver in Spa 2000)
    65307 1986 BLUE/TAN 25970m Stock US dealer/SoCal
    65309 1986 RED/CREAM
    65459 1986 RED/BLACK 25000m Stock US Testa86/Il.
    65499 1986 RED/RED
    65503 1986 RED/RED
    65665 1986 BLACK/BLACK 38250m KS
    65975 1986 RED/RED
    66275 1986 RED/RED
    66527 1986 RED/RED
    66621 1986 RED/TAN
    66815 1986 RED/TAN
    66821 1986 RED/CREMA 18300m double flying mirrors RHD markboj/Australia
    67614 Lowest double mirror reported so far.
     
  9. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
    BANNED

    Aug 3, 2002
    40,647
    California
    Full Name:
    Carbon McCoy
    Can we get a serial number check on that...? I have 60665 as being a black/cream 328 GTS, which has been for sale in MO, PA and TX. I'm not questioning your ownership, just want to confirm the serial number.
     
  10. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
    BANNED

    Aug 3, 2002
    40,647
    California
    Full Name:
    Carbon McCoy
    How many miles on your car...? What year did you buy it...?

    I don't know how long you've owned it, but for what it's worth, your car was advertised for sale in California (by a guy in Alaska) back in 1998. His ad stated that the car had "no books, no records, no tools of any kind, even the stereo is gone".
     
  11. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
    BANNED

    Aug 3, 2002
    40,647
    California
    Full Name:
    Carbon McCoy
    Can we confirm that the interior of this car is black...? I have it as tan...

    Can we confirm that this car is a Euro and not a US-spec car...? I have a US VIN for it, and sale history in the US since 1986. Also, in 1998, Fantasy Junction had this car for sale and advertised it as having two mirrors. Did someone put on the other mirror along the way...? Can we also get a mileage check on this car...? Seems like some of the owners have really enjoyed this car.

    Can we confirm that this car's interior is red, and not tan...? I have sales history for this car and every time it's listed as tan or beige.

    Can we confirm that this car still only has 8,000 miles...? Back in November, 2003, it was advertised as having 8,000 miles. It would suck if this car hasn't moved in four years.

    Can we confirm that this car's interior is tan...? Back in 1992, it was said to be blue.

    This is a 1986 USA model. Can we confirm that this car's interior is red...?

    This car is a 1986 European model. I would like to hear more about this car as it was last reported stolen from Milano, Italy, 11 November 1986. Also, can we confirm this car's red interior...? I have it down as something else.

    This car is a 1986 Swiss model. I have the interior as something other than red; can we confirm...?

    This is a great thread, and I look forward to following it with much interest, and contributing with whatever I can, whenever possible.
     
  12. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
    BANNED

    Aug 3, 2002
    40,647
    California
    Full Name:
    Carbon McCoy
    Can we confirm this car is a Testarossa...? In 1986, this serial number was advertised as a 308 GTS QV, by Stan Makres of SNM Sports Cars, in Grosse Pointe, MI.

    This is a red European car whose interior color is, to me, unknown. Last seen in 1996, in Switzerland.

    This is a 1986 USA model car.

    This is a 1986 USA model car, red with black leather.
     
  13. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
    BANNED

    Aug 3, 2002
    40,647
    California
    Full Name:
    Carbon McCoy
    Can we get a correction on this serial number...? Before 75000, all Ferrari road cars had an odd serial number; so 67614 isn't a valid number.
     
  14. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
    BANNED

    Aug 3, 2002
    40,647
    California
    Full Name:
    Carbon McCoy
    This car is a 1984 European model. Last seen in St. Louis, MO, USA, with 25,000 miles.

    This car is a 1984 European model, black with tan leather, last seen in Spain, in 2005.
     
  15. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
    BANNED

    Aug 3, 2002
    40,647
    California
    Full Name:
    Carbon McCoy
    I have this car as a red/tan 1985 European model.
     
  16. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
    BANNED

    Aug 3, 2002
    40,647
    California
    Full Name:
    Carbon McCoy
    Gabriel, there is a definitive difference between a cream interior and a tan interior. Cream is off-white, and tan is tan. If an owner says his interior is cream, it is most likely cream and not tan.
     
  17. thornatty

    thornatty Rookie

    Sep 17, 2005
    17
    Coconut Grove, FL
    Full Name:
    Thornton McDaniel
    Group, Sorry for the delay in reporting info: My '85 VIN#ZFFSA17A2F0058745 has a black exterior (original paint) with a natural leather interior and matching dash; I mention the dash b/c it's the same leather color as the seats, but later models came with a dark leather dash which did not match the seats...maybe there was a glare issue?? (but here even in Miami glare is not a problem in the car)...also, mine came in early through the owner of "The Collection" dealership. I have 34,000 mi, TRX stock center-lug wheels/tires. Tim Stanford Ferrari in Ft. Lauderdale (954/764-7824) is the best source for info. Early owners info: there appear to be no emergency pulls for the front/rear deck latches! I'm having some installed as we speak. If anyone knows the factory location (fuel door opening??) of the rear emergency pull, I'd greatly appreciate it!
    Note re: Miami Vice cars - I believe there were two original black flying mirror Testarossas (before they used replicas) for Michael Mann's production co. which were re-painted white for nighttime shots; I think my neighbor has one in storage, and the Collection dealership has the other.
    -Thorn in Coconut Grove, FL
     
  18. gabriel

    gabriel Formula 3

    I know what colors are.

    I have seen a TR whose owner thought that he had tan, when in fact, it was cream.
    He had never seen the two colors side by side and never really gave it any thought.
     
  19. Beta Scorpion

    Beta Scorpion Formula 3

    Jun 22, 2006
    1,336
  20. gabriel

    gabriel Formula 3

  21. Beta Scorpion

    Beta Scorpion Formula 3

    Jun 22, 2006
    1,336
    Typo, thanks for pointing this out.

    Specifically 8x16 inches in front and 10x16 inches in rear.

    As long as we are collecting info for these early testarosssas, it would be nice to know which cars have 1 bolt vs 5 bolt wheels and which cars have Metric (TRX) vs SAE (inches) wheels.

    It is not clear to me if all single mirror cars had single lug wheels. Are there 2 mirror cars with single bolt wheels? Are there single mirror cars with 5 bolt wheels? Were there 5 bolt wheels in Metric for the tesstarossa?

    I suspect none of the USA single mirror cars had the 'mouse track' style seatblets, but perhaps there are some out there.

    I always thougth black was a little unnusual for a testarossa, but in fact (at least in this survey) it is the most common non-red color.
     
  22. James_Woods

    James_Woods F1 World Champ

    May 17, 2006
    12,755
    Dallas, Tx.
    Full Name:
    James K. Woods

    It was my understanding that all 1985 and 1986 had both the single mirror, the single bolt wheels (metric), and the non-automatic seat belts. The 1987 switched sometime in mid-year to the dual mirrors + mouse motors for the belts, but still had the single bolt wheels. In late 1987 to 1988, the five bolt sheels were made standard.
     
  23. gabriel

    gabriel Formula 3

    Somewhere in the single lug era, the 16" became either a factory option or standard equipment.
     
  24. circleind

    circleind Karting

    Jan 31, 2007
    136
    Hi Folks, Well I'll try to answer some of the questions. Big Red and gabriel will have to answer the questions on their cars. The colors are listed as I receive them. We can update as different colors are confirmed. I have no way to check mileage other than what is reported. Thanks, Ron
    54453 1985 RED/BL cloth
    54635 1985 RED/TAN dealer
    54641 1985 RED/TAN Helmut
    54643 1985 RED/TAN
    54879 1985 RED/RED
    55033 1985 RED/CREAM Ron Woods (You think?)
    55151 1985 RED/TAN dealer
    55347 1985 RED/BLACK dealer
    55349 1985 RED/BLACK dealer
    55475 1985 RED/BLACK
    55783 1985 RED/RED (Now white in 2000 Zandvoot)
    55787 1985 RED/RED
    56039 1985 RED/BLACK
    56047 1985 RED/BLACK EURO RoccoM Toronto
    56219 1985 RED/BLACK Italy
    56221 1985 RED/BLACK 21000m exhaust EURO prova85/MA
    56223 1985 RED/RED
    56303 1985 RED/RED converted by Konig
    56503 1985 NERO/WHITE dealer
    56593 1985 NERO/TAN Italy
    56677 1985 RED/TAN
    56741 1985 RED/TAN
    56953 1985 RED/BLACK
    56955 1985 RED/RED
    56957 1985 NERO/BLACK Italy
    56959 1985 NERO/TAN IN US
    56963 1985 RED/CREAM IN US
    57083 1985 RED/RED
    57117 1985 NERO/BLACK IN US
    57269 1985 RED/TAN Euro fuentesa3 Houston, Texas
    57389 1985 RED/TAN
    57393 1985 BLUE/TAN
    57413 1985 RED/TAN
    57535 1985 RED/BLACK IN US
    57535 1985 RED/BLACK IN US
    57777 1985 RED/TAN
    57783 1985 RED/TAN IN US
    57859 1985 BLACK/TAN US
    57951 1985 RED/TAN
    58001 1985 RED/TAN 24000m Factory Cats. US Circleind / SoCal
    58549 1985 RED/RED
    58561 1985 RED/RED
    58745 1985 BLACK/ NATUREAL 34,000m thornatty
    58908 1985 RED/RED
    59329 1985 RED/TAN
    59927 1985 RED/BLACK IN US
    60141 1986 RED/CREAM 48000m Stock US gabriel
    60447 1986 RED/TAN 22000m Stock US James Woods / Dallas
    60665 1986 RED/BLACK 39000 Stock ? Big Red / ?
    60843 1986 RED/TAN
    61135 1986 RED/CREAM RHD tessmania/Ireland
    61305 1985 RED/TAN 30000k CH spec SWISS RJMUELLER/Germany
    61723 1986 RED/TAN 44000k Stock CANADA
    61951 1986 RED/TAN 37000 US khayes/Texas
    61955 1986 RED/TAN 36000k Double flying mirrors Anthony bently/London
    62003 1986 RED/RED
    62039 1986 RED/RED (Now black in spa 2000)
    62113 1986 RED/TAN 42000m RSKDSK/GA
    62369 1986 RED/TAN 8000m US dealer/MN
    62567 1986 WHITE BLUE 27500m US eogorman
    62619 1986 RED/TAN
    63251 1986 RED/RED
    63465 1986 BLACK/TAN 33000m Stock US jselevan/SoCal
    64051 1986 SILVERTAN SWISS
    64057 1986 RED/TAN EURO
    64101 1986 RED/RED
    64873 1986 RED/TAN US ASG 86TR/NJ
    64925 1986 RED/TAN 62000m US testarob/Florida
    64983 1986 RED/TAN
    64989 1986 RED/BLACK 48000m RHD ENGLAND Godber
    65099 1986 BLACK/BLACK Beta Scorpion
    65303 1986 RED/RED (Now Silver in Spa 2000)
    65307 1986 BLUE/TAN 25970m Stock US dealer/SoCal
    65309 1986 RED/CREAM
    65459 1986 RED/BLACK 25000m Stock US Testa86/Il.
    65499 1986 RED/RED
    65503 1986 RED/RED
    65665 1986 BLACK/BLACK 38250m KS
    65975 1986 RED/RED
    66275 1986 RED/RED
    66527 1986 RED/RED
    66621 1986 RED/TAN
    66815 1986 RED/TAN
    66821 1986 RED/CREMA 18300m double flying mirrors RHD markboj/Australia
    67614 Lowest double mirror reported so far.
     
  25. jselevan

    jselevan Formula 3

    Nov 2, 2003
    1,873
    Circleind - would you be so kind as to change the owner listing for 63465. After 18 years of ownership by me, it is now owned by Alan LeBis, a lovely gentleman in Calgary, Alberta. He was a gem to work with during the transition. He is quite the engineer, having raced a number of cars. His first project will be to modify the exhaust. The community's help will be greatly appreciated by him, I am sure.

    Thanks all. I will continue to follow this section as I still have my Boxer.

    Jim S.
     

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