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PRODUCTION NUMBERS 1985 1986 SINGLE MIRROR TESTAROSSA

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  1. circleind

    circleind Karting

    Jan 31, 2007
    136
    Well folks, it just seems to get better and better. My first question is, can we verify if indeed only 119 (85) and 299 (86) US spec cars were sent to the US? I assume this does not include cars that were privately imported. Also what are we calling a US spec car? Did the first US spec. cars have factory installed cats? I've also heard that the first US spec cars were delivered in late Sept. of 85. I do know that the sales receipt for my 85 is dated 8/28/85. I have confirmed this sale with the dealer. Now as to only US cars having a VIN # than indeed the chassis number should prevail. I understand that some of the info is conflicting but,this is exactly what we're trying to straighten out. Jonathan, any info you could get from the UK club would sure help. Thanks,Ron
    54453 1985 RED/BL cloth
    54635 1985 RED/TAN dealer
    54641 1985 RED/TAN Helmut
    54643 1985 RED/TAN
    54879 1985 RED/RED
    55033 1985 RED/CREAM Ron Woods (You think?)
    56039 1985 RED/BLACK
    56219 1985 RED/BLACK Italy
    56221 1985 RED/BLACK 21000m exhaust EURO prova85/MA
    57535 1985 RED/BLACK IN US
    57777 1985 RED/TAN
    57783 1985 RED/TAN IN US
    57859 1985 BLACK/TAN EURO in US
    58001 1985 RED/TAN 24000m Stock US Circleind / SoCal
    58549 1985 RED/RED
    60141 1986 RED/CREAM 48000m Stock US gabriel
    60447 1986 RED/TAN 22000m Stock US James Woods / Dallas
    60665 1986 RED/BLACK 39000 Stock ? Big Red / ?
    60843 1986 RED/TAN
    61305 1985 RED/TAN 30000k CH spec SWISS RJMUELLER/Germany
    61723 1986 RED/TAN 44000k Stock CANADA
    61951 1986 RED/TAN 37000 US khayes/Texas
    61955 1986 RED/TAN 36000k Double flying mirrors Anthony bently/London
    62003 1986 RED/RED
    62039 1986 RED/RED
    62369 1986 RED/TAN 8000m US dealer/MN
    62567 1986 WHITE BLUE 27500m US eogorman
    62619 1986 RED/TAN LHD
    63251 1986 RED/RED
    63465 1986 BLACK/TAN 33000m Stock US jselevan/SoCal
    64051 1986 SILVERTAN SWISS
    64057 1986 RED/TAN EURO
    64101 1986 RED/RED
    64873 1986 RED/TAN US ASG 86TR/NJ
    64925 1986 RED/TAN 62000m US testarob/Florida
    64983 1986 RED/TAN
    64989 1986 RED/BLACK 48000m RHD ENGLAND Godber
    65303 1986 RED/RED
    65307 1986 BLUE/TAN 25970m Stock US dealer/SoCal
    65309 1986 RED/CREAM
    65499 1986 RED/RED
    65503 1986 RED/RED
    65975 1986 RED/RED
    66275 1986 RED/RED
    66527 1986 RED/RED
    66621 1986 RED/TAN
    66815 1986 RED/TAN
    67614 Lowest double mirror reported so far.[/QUOTE]
     
  2. jtremlett

    jtremlett F1 Rookie

    Feb 18, 2004
    4,704
    As far as I'm concerned a US spec car is one that has an 'A' as the eighth character of the VIN code. That represents cars destined for the North American market and meeting all relevant US regulations. European cars have a 'B' in the same position, UK cars have a 'C', Australian cars have a 'D', Japanese cars have a 'J', Swiss cars have an 'S' and Middle Eastern cars have a 'T'. (As an aside, note that currently US spec cars also go to the Middle East, Euro cars to Switzerland, China etc., UK cars to Hong Kong, South Africa and so on).

    How to read the VIN is explained more fully on Edvar's site: www.red-headed.com. I have the serial numbers of the 119 (85) and 299 (86) US and also some Euro cars imported into the US. I can let you have those in the next few days. I cannot guarantee those were the only cars in those years but cross-checking against the numbers you already have will at least show if there are any discrepancies so far.

    Jonathan
     
  3. rskdsk

    rskdsk Formula Junior

    Jun 1, 2006
    527
    BTW My 86 single lug high fly is zffsa17a5g0062113
     
  4. tessmania

    tessmania Karting

    Oct 20, 2006
    110
    Ireland
    61135 is the number of my 86 single lug. UK rhd car. Surely a rhd single mirror is quite rare? Anyone have any idea roughly what the rhd production numbers would be?
     
  5. circleind

    circleind Karting

    Jan 31, 2007
    136
    First off thank's for your help Jonathan, I've actually been in touch with Edvar while he's on his world trip. Their redheaded site is great and sure helps a lot. Unfortunely they have not been able to add any info while their on the trip. (We should have all have the courage.) Jonathan if it's easier to PM me the numbers, if your able to get them, that's fine.If the numbers prove to be correct (or as close as we can prove) this would leave 449 (85's) and 520 (86's) that were delivered outside the US. This would not include the 110 (84's) . As an aside I have reserved the domain name (flyingmirror.com) and will start to build a web site for just those cars. The goal is to provide as much correct information as possible on these special cars. Thank's, Ron PS. Thomas, your's is the second called out RHD on the list so far.
    54453 1985 RED/BL cloth
    54635 1985 RED/TAN dealer
    54641 1985 RED/TAN Helmut
    54643 1985 RED/TAN
    54879 1985 RED/RED
    55033 1985 RED/CREAM Ron Woods (You think?)
    56039 1985 RED/BLACK
    56219 1985 RED/BLACK Italy
    56221 1985 RED/BLACK 21000m exhaust EURO prova85/MA
    56303 1985 RED/RED converted by Konig
    56503 1985 NERO/WHITE dealer
    56593 1985 NERO/TAN Italy
    56959 1985 NERO/TAN IN US
    56963 1985 RED/CREAM IN US
    57083 1985 RED/RED
    57117 1985 NERO/BLACK IN US
    57389 1985 RED/TAN
    57393 1985 BLUE/TAN
    57413 1985 RED/TAN
    57535 1985 RED/BLACK IN US
    57535 1985 RED/BLACK IN US
    57777 1985 RED/TAN
    57783 1985 RED/TAN IN US
    57859 1985 BLACK/TAN EURO in US
    58001 1985 RED/TAN 24000m Factory Cats. US Circleind / SoCal
    58549 1985 RED/RED
    60141 1986 RED/CREAM 48000m Stock US gabriel
    60447 1986 RED/TAN 22000m Stock US James Woods / Dallas
    60665 1986 RED/BLACK 39000 Stock ? Big Red / ?
    60843 1986 RED/TAN
    61135 1986 N/A RHD tessmania/Ireland
    61305 1985 RED/TAN 30000k CH spec SWISS RJMUELLER/Germany
    61723 1986 RED/TAN 44000k Stock CANADA
    61951 1986 RED/TAN 37000 US khayes/Texas
    61955 1986 RED/TAN 36000k Double flying mirrors Anthony bently/London
    62003 1986 RED/RED
    62039 1986 RED/RED
    62369 1986 RED/TAN 8000m US dealer/MN
    62567 1986 WHITE BLUE 27500m US eogorman
    62619 1986 RED/TAN LHD
    63251 1986 RED/RED
    63465 1986 BLACK/TAN 33000m Stock US jselevan/SoCal
    64051 1986 SILVERTAN SWISS
    64057 1986 RED/TAN EURO
    64101 1986 RED/RED
    64873 1986 RED/TAN US ASG 86TR/NJ
    64925 1986 RED/TAN 62000m US testarob/Florida
    64983 1986 RED/TAN
    64989 1986 RED/BLACK 48000m RHD ENGLAND Godber
    65303 1986 RED/RED
    65307 1986 BLUE/TAN 25970m Stock US dealer/SoCal
    65309 1986 RED/CREAM
    65499 1986 RED/RED
    65503 1986 RED/RED
    65975 1986 RED/RED
    66275 1986 RED/RED
    66527 1986 RED/RED
    66621 1986 RED/TAN
    66815 1986 RED/TAN
    67614 Lowest double mirror reported so far.
     
  6. tessmania

    tessmania Karting

    Oct 20, 2006
    110
    Ireland
    Sorry didn't let you know it's a red/cream!
     
  7. gabriel

    gabriel Formula 3

    I have reserved the domain name (flyingmirror.com)

    What a great idea!
     
  8. circleind

    circleind Karting

    Jan 31, 2007
    136
    Hi Folks, We broke 70 so far . Hopefully we can keep up at a good pace, of course as it goes along we'll be lucky to add 1 a week. Ron
    54453 1985 RED/BL cloth
    54635 1985 RED/TAN dealer
    54641 1985 RED/TAN Helmut
    54643 1985 RED/TAN
    54879 1985 RED/RED
    55033 1985 RED/CREAM Ron Woods (You think?)
    55151 1985 RED/TAN dealer
    55347 1985 RED/BLACK dealer
    55349 1985 RED/BLACK dealer
    55475 1985 RED/BLACK
    55783 1985 RED/RED
    55787 1985 RED/RED
    56039 1985 RED/BLACK
    56219 1985 RED/BLACK Italy
    56221 1985 RED/BLACK 21000m exhaust EURO prova85/MA
    56223 1985 RED/RED
    56303 1985 RED/RED converted by Konig
    56503 1985 NERO/WHITE dealer
    56593 1985 NERO/TAN Italy
    56677 1985 RED/TAN
    56741 1985 RED/TAN
    56953 1985 RED/BLACK
    56955 1985 RED/RED
    56957 1985 NERO/BLACK Italy
    56959 1985 NERO/TAN IN US
    56963 1985 RED/CREAM IN US
    57083 1985 RED/RED
    57117 1985 NERO/BLACK IN US
    57389 1985 RED/TAN
    57393 1985 BLUE/TAN
    57413 1985 RED/TAN
    57535 1985 RED/BLACK IN US
    57535 1985 RED/BLACK IN US
    57777 1985 RED/TAN
    57783 1985 RED/TAN IN US
    57859 1985 BLACK/TAN EURO in US
    58001 1985 RED/TAN 24000m Factory Cats. US Circleind / SoCal
    58549 1985 RED/RED
    60141 1986 RED/CREAM 48000m Stock US gabriel
    60447 1986 RED/TAN 22000m Stock US James Woods / Dallas
    60665 1986 RED/BLACK 39000 Stock ? Big Red / ?
    60843 1986 RED/TAN
    61135 1986 RED/CREAM RHD tessmania/Ireland
    61305 1985 RED/TAN 30000k CH spec SWISS RJMUELLER/Germany
    61723 1986 RED/TAN 44000k Stock CANADA
    61951 1986 RED/TAN 37000 US khayes/Texas
    61955 1986 RED/TAN 36000k Double flying mirrors Anthony bently/London
    62003 1986 RED/RED
    62039 1986 RED/RED
    62369 1986 RED/TAN 8000m US dealer/MN
    62567 1986 WHITE BLUE 27500m US eogorman
    62619 1986 RED/TAN LHD
    63251 1986 RED/RED
    63465 1986 BLACK/TAN 33000m Stock US jselevan/SoCal
    64051 1986 SILVERTAN SWISS
    64057 1986 RED/TAN EURO
    64101 1986 RED/RED
    64873 1986 RED/TAN US ASG 86TR/NJ
    64925 1986 RED/TAN 62000m US testarob/Florida
    64983 1986 RED/TAN
    64989 1986 RED/BLACK 48000m RHD ENGLAND Godber
    65303 1986 RED/RED
    65307 1986 BLUE/TAN 25970m Stock US dealer/SoCal
    65309 1986 RED/CREAM
    65499 1986 RED/RED
    65503 1986 RED/RED
    65975 1986 RED/RED
    66275 1986 RED/RED
    66527 1986 RED/RED
    66621 1986 RED/TAN
    66815 1986 RED/TAN
    67614 Lowest double mirror reported so far.
     
  9. rskdsk

    rskdsk Formula Junior

    Jun 1, 2006
    527
    What gives ... you do not like my car .... why is it not listed?
     
  10. circleind

    circleind Karting

    Jan 31, 2007
    136
    Sorry, I had your info on another sheet. Ron
    54453 1985 RED/BL cloth
    54635 1985 RED/TAN dealer
    54641 1985 RED/TAN Helmut
    54643 1985 RED/TAN
    54879 1985 RED/RED
    55033 1985 RED/CREAM Ron Woods (You think?)
    55151 1985 RED/TAN dealer
    55347 1985 RED/BLACK dealer
    55349 1985 RED/BLACK dealer
    55475 1985 RED/BLACK
    55783 1985 RED/RED
    55787 1985 RED/RED
    56039 1985 RED/BLACK
    56219 1985 RED/BLACK Italy
    56221 1985 RED/BLACK 21000m exhaust EURO prova85/MA
    56223 1985 RED/RED
    56303 1985 RED/RED converted by Konig
    56503 1985 NERO/WHITE dealer
    56593 1985 NERO/TAN Italy
    56677 1985 RED/TAN
    56741 1985 RED/TAN
    56953 1985 RED/BLACK
    56955 1985 RED/RED
    56957 1985 NERO/BLACK Italy
    56959 1985 NERO/TAN IN US
    56963 1985 RED/CREAM IN US
    57083 1985 RED/RED
    57117 1985 NERO/BLACK IN US
    57389 1985 RED/TAN
    57393 1985 BLUE/TAN
    57413 1985 RED/TAN
    57535 1985 RED/BLACK IN US
    57535 1985 RED/BLACK IN US
    57777 1985 RED/TAN
    57783 1985 RED/TAN IN US
    57859 1985 BLACK/TAN EURO in US
    58001 1985 RED/TAN 24000m Factory Cats. US Circleind / SoCal
    58549 1985 RED/RED
    60141 1986 RED/CREAM 48000m Stock US gabriel
    60447 1986 RED/TAN 22000m Stock US James Woods / Dallas
    60665 1986 RED/BLACK 39000 Stock ? Big Red / ?
    60843 1986 RED/TAN
    61135 1986 RED/CREAM RHD tessmania/Ireland
    61305 1985 RED/TAN 30000k CH spec SWISS RJMUELLER/Germany
    61723 1986 RED/TAN 44000k Stock CANADA
    61951 1986 RED/TAN 37000 US khayes/Texas
    61955 1986 RED/TAN 36000k Double flying mirrors Anthony bently/London
    62003 1986 RED/RED
    62039 1986 RED/RED
    62113 1986 RED/TAN 42000m RSKDSK/GA
    62369 1986 RED/TAN 8000m US dealer/MN
    62567 1986 WHITE BLUE 27500m US eogorman
    62619 1986 RED/TAN LHD
    63251 1986 RED/RED
    63465 1986 BLACK/TAN 33000m Stock US jselevan/SoCal
    64051 1986 SILVERTAN SWISS
    64057 1986 RED/TAN EURO
    64101 1986 RED/RED
    64873 1986 RED/TAN US ASG 86TR/NJ
    64925 1986 RED/TAN 62000m US testarob/Florida
    64983 1986 RED/TAN
    64989 1986 RED/BLACK 48000m RHD ENGLAND Godber
    65303 1986 RED/RED
    65307 1986 BLUE/TAN 25970m Stock US dealer/SoCal
    65309 1986 RED/CREAM
    65499 1986 RED/RED
    65503 1986 RED/RED
    65665 1986 BLACK/BLACK 38250m KS
    65975 1986 RED/RED
    66275 1986 RED/RED
    66527 1986 RED/RED
    66621 1986 RED/TAN
    66815 1986 RED/TAN
    67614 Lowest double mirror reported so far.
     
  11. Testy 86

    Testy 86 Rookie

    Jun 29, 2005
    21
    Lake Barrington, IL
    Full Name:
    Pete Consolo
    65459 Red / Black US 25K Miles, Stock, Coppa Bella Macchina, Pete Consolo Barrington, IL
     
  12. circleind

    circleind Karting

    Jan 31, 2007
    136
    Well, Their still coming in. Any luck in london Jonathan? Ron
    54453 1985 RED/BL cloth
    54635 1985 RED/TAN dealer
    54641 1985 RED/TAN Helmut
    54643 1985 RED/TAN
    54879 1985 RED/RED
    55033 1985 RED/CREAM Ron Woods (You think?)
    55151 1985 RED/TAN dealer
    55347 1985 RED/BLACK dealer
    55349 1985 RED/BLACK dealer
    55475 1985 RED/BLACK
    55783 1985 RED/RED
    55787 1985 RED/RED
    56039 1985 RED/BLACK
    56219 1985 RED/BLACK Italy
    56221 1985 RED/BLACK 21000m exhaust EURO prova85/MA
    56223 1985 RED/RED
    56303 1985 RED/RED converted by Konig
    56503 1985 NERO/WHITE dealer
    56593 1985 NERO/TAN Italy
    56677 1985 RED/TAN
    56741 1985 RED/TAN
    56953 1985 RED/BLACK
    56955 1985 RED/RED
    56957 1985 NERO/BLACK Italy
    56959 1985 NERO/TAN IN US
    56963 1985 RED/CREAM IN US
    57083 1985 RED/RED
    57117 1985 NERO/BLACK IN US
    57389 1985 RED/TAN
    57393 1985 BLUE/TAN
    57413 1985 RED/TAN
    57535 1985 RED/BLACK IN US
    57535 1985 RED/BLACK IN US
    57777 1985 RED/TAN
    57783 1985 RED/TAN IN US
    57859 1985 BLACK/TAN EURO in US
    57951 1985 RED/TAN
    58001 1985 RED/TAN 24000m Factory Cats. US Circleind / SoCal
    58549 1985 RED/RED
    59927 1985 RED/BLACK IN US
    60141 1986 RED/CREAM 48000m Stock US gabriel
    60447 1986 RED/TAN 22000m Stock US James Woods / Dallas
    60665 1986 RED/BLACK 39000 Stock ? Big Red / ?
    60843 1986 RED/TAN
    61135 1986 RED/CREAM RHD tessmania/Ireland
    61305 1985 RED/TAN 30000k CH spec SWISS RJMUELLER/Germany
    61723 1986 RED/TAN 44000k Stock CANADA
    61951 1986 RED/TAN 37000 US khayes/Texas
    61955 1986 RED/TAN 36000k Double flying mirrors Anthony bently/London
    62003 1986 RED/RED
    62039 1986 RED/RED
    62113 1986 RED/TAN 42000m RSKDSK/GA
    62369 1986 RED/TAN 8000m US dealer/MN
    62567 1986 WHITE BLUE 27500m US eogorman
    62619 1986 RED/TAN LHD
    63251 1986 RED/RED
    63465 1986 BLACK/TAN 33000m Stock US jselevan/SoCal
    64051 1986 SILVERTAN SWISS
    64057 1986 RED/TAN EURO
    64101 1986 RED/RED
    64873 1986 RED/TAN US ASG 86TR/NJ
    64925 1986 RED/TAN 62000m US testarob/Florida
    64983 1986 RED/TAN
    64989 1986 RED/BLACK 48000m RHD ENGLAND Godber
    65303 1986 RED/RED
    65307 1986 BLUE/TAN 25970m Stock US dealer/SoCal
    65309 1986 RED/CREAM
    65459 1986 RED/BLACK 25000m Stock US Testa86/Il.
    65499 1986 RED/RED
    65503 1986 RED/RED
    65665 1986 BLACK/BLACK 38250m KS
    65975 1986 RED/RED
    66275 1986 RED/RED
    66527 1986 RED/RED
    66621 1986 RED/TAN
    66815 1986 RED/TAN
    67614 Lowest double mirror reported so far.
     
  13. James_Woods

    James_Woods F1 World Champ

    May 17, 2006
    12,755
    Dallas, Tx.
    Full Name:
    James K. Woods
    OK, just a quick hand count gives this:

    Red/Tan - 27 36%
    Red/Red - 19 25%
    Red/Blk - 14 18%
    Red/Crm - 5 6%
    Nero/xx - 8 10%
    Other - 4 5%

    Total - 77 (if I counted right, did not make a spreadsheet)

    So - some surprises to me:

    a) while red cars look like about 85%, not far from what I guessed earlier, they are nowhere near all red/tan, on which I was wrong.
    b) I sure would never have guessed we would see more red/red than red/black.
    c) you might have thought there would be more white or black cars than we see here, given Miami Vice and the 80s.
    d) If you have a car that is neither red nor black exterior, you are in a very special group

    ** - (given the data we have so far, of course...)
     
  14. gabriel

    gabriel Formula 3

    I do believe that a number of owners write tan when they mean cream. - just my opinion.
     
  15. James_Woods

    James_Woods F1 World Champ

    May 17, 2006
    12,755
    Dallas, Tx.
    Full Name:
    James K. Woods
    So, in the interest of accuracy, what exactly is the difference? (paint # code, actual appearance?)

    I would just assume that tan is a little darker up the color wheel than the crema, which I would picture as a little lighter?
     
  16. James_Woods

    James_Woods F1 World Champ

    May 17, 2006
    12,755
    Dallas, Tx.
    Full Name:
    James K. Woods
    BTW, just got my Hemmings hard copy, and there is a 1986 Black/Black advertised, so I guess I will call and see what it's numbers are, in the interest of the record.
     
  17. rskdsk

    rskdsk Formula Junior

    Jun 1, 2006
    527
    I am very surprised at how many you have been able to find ... either this site is very popular or there are more out there than I thought.
     
  18. gabriel

    gabriel Formula 3


    Even with all of the ones that are listed, but have no contact or owner info, that is a little over 18% of those produced, which I am impressed with at this early stage.
     
  19. James_Woods

    James_Woods F1 World Champ

    May 17, 2006
    12,755
    Dallas, Tx.
    Full Name:
    James K. Woods
    They say that this car has already sold, and the guy was not much interested in sharing the chassis number with me.

    Wonder what the deal with it was, anyway? - it was only advertised at 48,500 or so. A real bargain unless there were some issues.

    Maybe the new owner will see this thread and post his car.
     
  20. circleind

    circleind Karting

    Jan 31, 2007
    136
    Hi Folks, Sorry about the delay, I was away for a few days (which included driving the Testarossa of course). I plan to start working on the web site in the next few weeks. On the site we eventually hope to list as many current owners as we can and maybe include pictures of the car. We also would like to add a section on how to care for the center locks and anything else special to these years. If the black on black in Hemmings is in Kansas we have the #. Thanks ,Ron
    54453 1985 RED/BL cloth
    54635 1985 RED/TAN dealer
    54641 1985 RED/TAN Helmut
    54643 1985 RED/TAN
    54879 1985 RED/RED
    55033 1985 RED/CREAM Ron Woods (You think?)
    55151 1985 RED/TAN dealer
    55347 1985 RED/BLACK dealer
    55349 1985 RED/BLACK dealer
    55475 1985 RED/BLACK
    55783 1985 RED/RED
    55787 1985 RED/RED
    56039 1985 RED/BLACK
    56219 1985 RED/BLACK Italy
    56221 1985 RED/BLACK 21000m exhaust EURO prova85/MA
    56223 1985 RED/RED
    56303 1985 RED/RED converted by Konig
    56503 1985 NERO/WHITE dealer
    56593 1985 NERO/TAN Italy
    56677 1985 RED/TAN
    56741 1985 RED/TAN
    56953 1985 RED/BLACK
    56955 1985 RED/RED
    56957 1985 NERO/BLACK Italy
    56959 1985 NERO/TAN IN US
    56963 1985 RED/CREAM IN US
    57083 1985 RED/RED
    57117 1985 NERO/BLACK IN US
    57389 1985 RED/TAN
    57393 1985 BLUE/TAN
    57413 1985 RED/TAN
    57535 1985 RED/BLACK IN US
    57535 1985 RED/BLACK IN US
    57777 1985 RED/TAN
    57783 1985 RED/TAN IN US
    57859 1985 BLACK/TAN EURO in US
    57951 1985 RED/TAN
    58001 1985 RED/TAN 24000m Factory Cats. US Circleind / SoCal
    58549 1985 RED/RED
    58561 1985 RED/RED
    58908 1985 RED/RED
    59329 1985 RED/TAN
    59927 1985 RED/BLACK IN US
    60141 1986 RED/CREAM 48000m Stock US gabriel
    60447 1986 RED/TAN 22000m Stock US James Woods / Dallas
    60665 1986 RED/BLACK 39000 Stock ? Big Red / ?
    60843 1986 RED/TAN
    61135 1986 RED/CREAM RHD tessmania/Ireland
    61305 1985 RED/TAN 30000k CH spec SWISS RJMUELLER/Germany
    61723 1986 RED/TAN 44000k Stock CANADA
    61951 1986 RED/TAN 37000 US khayes/Texas
    61955 1986 RED/TAN 36000k Double flying mirrors Anthony bently/London
    62003 1986 RED/RED
    62039 1986 RED/RED
    62113 1986 RED/TAN 42000m RSKDSK/GA
    62369 1986 RED/TAN 8000m US dealer/MN
    62567 1986 WHITE BLUE 27500m US eogorman
    62619 1986 RED/TAN LHD
    63251 1986 RED/RED
    63465 1986 BLACK/TAN 33000m Stock US jselevan/SoCal
    64051 1986 SILVERTAN SWISS
    64057 1986 RED/TAN EURO
    64101 1986 RED/RED
    64873 1986 RED/TAN US ASG 86TR/NJ
    64925 1986 RED/TAN 62000m US testarob/Florida
    64983 1986 RED/TAN
    64989 1986 RED/BLACK 48000m RHD ENGLAND Godber
    65303 1986 RED/RED
    65307 1986 BLUE/TAN 25970m Stock US dealer/SoCal
    65309 1986 RED/CREAM
    65459 1986 RED/BLACK 25000m Stock US Testa86/Il.
    65499 1986 RED/RED
    65503 1986 RED/RED
    65665 1986 BLACK/BLACK 38250m KS
    65975 1986 RED/RED
    66275 1986 RED/RED
    66527 1986 RED/RED
    66621 1986 RED/TAN
    66815 1986 RED/TAN
    67614 Lowest double mirror reported so far.
     
  21. circleind

    circleind Karting

    Jan 31, 2007
    136
    I'am getting a number of PM's and listing as I can. I now have the numbers for the 85 and 86 North American cars. Too many to list here, so I'll be putting them on the web site. I can say that it appears there was indeed (119) 85's and (299) 86's shipped to North America. (Not many huh?) Now the question is how many came to the US and how many to Canada? I would think that only the US models would be smog equipted right? That would leave (449) 85's and (520) 86's in europe, asia, etc. Of course this doesn't take into account any converted cars that have come to North America. Ron
    54453 1985 RED/BL cloth
    54635 1985 RED/TAN dealer
    54641 1985 RED/TAN Helmut
    54643 1985 RED/TAN
    54879 1985 RED/RED
    55033 1985 RED/CREAM Ron Woods (You think?)
    55151 1985 RED/TAN dealer
    55347 1985 RED/BLACK dealer
    55349 1985 RED/BLACK dealer
    55475 1985 RED/BLACK
    55783 1985 RED/RED
    55787 1985 RED/RED
    56039 1985 RED/BLACK
    56219 1985 RED/BLACK Italy
    56221 1985 RED/BLACK 21000m exhaust EURO prova85/MA
    56223 1985 RED/RED
    56303 1985 RED/RED converted by Konig
    56503 1985 NERO/WHITE dealer
    56593 1985 NERO/TAN Italy
    56677 1985 RED/TAN
    56741 1985 RED/TAN
    56953 1985 RED/BLACK
    56955 1985 RED/RED
    56957 1985 NERO/BLACK Italy
    56959 1985 NERO/TAN IN US
    56963 1985 RED/CREAM IN US
    57083 1985 RED/RED
    57117 1985 NERO/BLACK IN US
    57389 1985 RED/TAN
    57393 1985 BLUE/TAN
    57413 1985 RED/TAN
    57535 1985 RED/BLACK IN US
    57535 1985 RED/BLACK IN US
    57777 1985 RED/TAN
    57783 1985 RED/TAN IN US
    57859 1985 BLACK/TAN EURO in US
    57951 1985 RED/TAN
    58001 1985 RED/TAN 24000m Factory Cats. US Circleind / SoCal
    58549 1985 RED/RED
    58561 1985 RED/RED
    58908 1985 RED/RED
    59329 1985 RED/TAN
    59927 1985 RED/BLACK IN US
    60141 1986 RED/CREAM 48000m Stock US gabriel
    60447 1986 RED/TAN 22000m Stock US James Woods / Dallas
    60665 1986 RED/BLACK 39000 Stock ? Big Red / ?
    60843 1986 RED/TAN
    61135 1986 RED/CREAM RHD tessmania/Ireland
    61305 1985 RED/TAN 30000k CH spec SWISS RJMUELLER/Germany
    61723 1986 RED/TAN 44000k Stock CANADA
    61951 1986 RED/TAN 37000 US khayes/Texas
    61955 1986 RED/TAN 36000k Double flying mirrors Anthony bently/London
    62003 1986 RED/RED
    62039 1986 RED/RED
    62113 1986 RED/TAN 42000m RSKDSK/GA
    62369 1986 RED/TAN 8000m US dealer/MN
    62567 1986 WHITE BLUE 27500m US eogorman
    62619 1986 RED/TAN
    63251 1986 RED/RED
    63465 1986 BLACK/TAN 33000m Stock US jselevan/SoCal
    64051 1986 SILVERTAN SWISS
    64057 1986 RED/TAN EURO
    64101 1986 RED/RED
    64873 1986 RED/TAN US ASG 86TR/NJ
    64925 1986 RED/TAN 62000m US testarob/Florida
    64983 1986 RED/TAN
    64989 1986 RED/BLACK 48000m RHD ENGLAND Godber
    65303 1986 RED/RED
    65307 1986 BLUE/TAN 25970m Stock US dealer/SoCal
    65309 1986 RED/CREAM
    65459 1986 RED/BLACK 25000m Stock US Testa86/Il.
    65499 1986 RED/RED
    65503 1986 RED/RED
    65665 1986 BLACK/BLACK 38250m KS
    65975 1986 RED/RED
    66275 1986 RED/RED
    66527 1986 RED/RED
    66621 1986 RED/TAN
    66815 1986 RED/TAN
    66821 1986 RED/CREMA 18300m double flying mirrors RHD markboj/Australia
    67614 Lowest double mirror reported so far.
     
  22. gabriel

    gabriel Formula 3

    >Now the question is how many came to the US and how many to Canada?

    Perhaps our Canuck brethern can provide some input.
    Maybe Canada's DOTs kept more detailed import and registration data?
     
  23. thepinkumbrella

    thepinkumbrella F1 Veteran

    Feb 26, 2006
    6,048
    United Kingdom
    Good work.
    Just a couple of comments

    I have # 55783 being white as seen at the Italia a Zandvoort Event in 2000
    I have # 62039 being black as seen at the Spa Ferrari Days in 2000
    I have # 65303 being silver as seen at the Spa Ferrari Days in 2000

    Also, # 58908 listed. Even numbers were not used until 75000 +

    Paul
     
  24. circleind

    circleind Karting

    Jan 31, 2007
    136
    Thanks Paul, I also understand that even numbers were not used untill 75000, but I checked on a TR registery and it does show 58908. I will try to check elsewhere to conferm. Thanks again, Ron P.S. Is it possiable that all 3 cars were repainted?
    54453 1985 RED/BL cloth
    54635 1985 RED/TAN dealer
    54641 1985 RED/TAN Helmut
    54643 1985 RED/TAN
    54879 1985 RED/RED
    55033 1985 RED/CREAM Ron Woods (You think?)
    55151 1985 RED/TAN dealer
    55347 1985 RED/BLACK dealer
    55349 1985 RED/BLACK dealer
    55475 1985 RED/BLACK
    55783 1985 RED/RED (Now white in 2000 Zandvoot)
    55787 1985 RED/RED
    56039 1985 RED/BLACK
    56219 1985 RED/BLACK Italy
    56221 1985 RED/BLACK 21000m exhaust EURO prova85/MA
    56223 1985 RED/RED
    56303 1985 RED/RED converted by Konig
    56503 1985 NERO/WHITE dealer
    56593 1985 NERO/TAN Italy
    56677 1985 RED/TAN
    56741 1985 RED/TAN
    56953 1985 RED/BLACK
    56955 1985 RED/RED
    56957 1985 NERO/BLACK Italy
    56959 1985 NERO/TAN IN US
    56963 1985 RED/CREAM IN US
    57083 1985 RED/RED
    57117 1985 NERO/BLACK IN US
    57389 1985 RED/TAN
    57393 1985 BLUE/TAN
    57413 1985 RED/TAN
    57535 1985 RED/BLACK IN US
    57535 1985 RED/BLACK IN US
    57777 1985 RED/TAN
    57783 1985 RED/TAN IN US
    57859 1985 BLACK/TAN EURO in US
    57951 1985 RED/TAN
    58001 1985 RED/TAN 24000m Factory Cats. US Circleind / SoCal
    58549 1985 RED/RED
    58561 1985 RED/RED
    58908 1985 RED/RED
    59329 1985 RED/TAN
    59927 1985 RED/BLACK IN US
    60141 1986 RED/CREAM 48000m Stock US gabriel
    60447 1986 RED/TAN 22000m Stock US James Woods / Dallas
    60665 1986 RED/BLACK 39000 Stock ? Big Red / ?
    60843 1986 RED/TAN
    61135 1986 RED/CREAM RHD tessmania/Ireland
    61305 1985 RED/TAN 30000k CH spec SWISS RJMUELLER/Germany
    61723 1986 RED/TAN 44000k Stock CANADA
    61951 1986 RED/TAN 37000 US khayes/Texas
    61955 1986 RED/TAN 36000k Double flying mirrors Anthony bently/London
    62003 1986 RED/RED
    62039 1986 RED/RED (Now black in spa 2000)
    62113 1986 RED/TAN 42000m RSKDSK/GA
    62369 1986 RED/TAN 8000m US dealer/MN
    62567 1986 WHITE BLUE 27500m US eogorman
    62619 1986 RED/TAN
    63251 1986 RED/RED
    63465 1986 BLACK/TAN 33000m Stock US jselevan/SoCal
    64051 1986 SILVERTAN SWISS
    64057 1986 RED/TAN EURO
    64101 1986 RED/RED
    64873 1986 RED/TAN US ASG 86TR/NJ
    64925 1986 RED/TAN 62000m US testarob/Florida
    64983 1986 RED/TAN
    64989 1986 RED/BLACK 48000m RHD ENGLAND Godber
    65303 1986 RED/RED (Now Silver in Spa 2000)
    65307 1986 BLUE/TAN 25970m Stock US dealer/SoCal
    65309 1986 RED/CREAM
    65459 1986 RED/BLACK 25000m Stock US Testa86/Il.
    65499 1986 RED/RED
    65503 1986 RED/RED
    65665 1986 BLACK/BLACK 38250m KS
    65975 1986 RED/RED
    66275 1986 RED/RED
    66527 1986 RED/RED
    66621 1986 RED/TAN
    66815 1986 RED/TAN
    66821 1986 RED/CREMA 18300m double flying mirrors RHD markboj/Australia
    67614 Lowest double mirror reported so far.
     
  25. gabriel

    gabriel Formula 3

    Does anyone know the cut off between 85 and 86, i.e, the last 85/first 86?
     

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