PPI in St. Louis, MO?

bentley st louis, great guys up there. other then that, there are a couple of small independant shops, where in st louis is the car located?

 

Please do a search for them on this site, I doubt that they will let you do a PPI, since they have been reluctant in the past. I would not get my hopes up on the car, but best of luck.

 

Run away. I bought a car from them. All I can recommend is to run away.

 

they will **** you over

 

Run Forest (Woods) Run!

 

like i said in the pm, i'll be more then happy to give the car a look over for you, but i figured i'd tell you one of my stories: i went up to go look at a rolls (pertaining to a biz idea i had) and found out that i need to place a deposit down before i took it for a ride. okay (in a sarcastic tone) so i walked. i don't care if it's a chevy or a rolls or a ferrari, i'm not buying a car unless i've driven it and i'll be darned if i'm putting down a deposit to do something that's considered normal for purchasing a car. just my .02. but like i said, i'll go check it out in person for you and let you know what i think, did you get that last pm by chance?

 

Coming from someone that has been in the same buisness as Danny Schmitt for 5 years and being a competitor of his I will tell you that you should do what the majority of the people in this thread have told you. Daniel Schmitt learned the buisness from his father. A crook. He had his Rolls Royce dealership taken away from him because he was caught rolling back odometers among other things. If you still have doubts...... check out the BBB reports for him...........

http://www.stlouis.bbb.org/commonreport.html?compid=110119309

23 reports in 36 months????? That should be enough right there to shy away from it.

If you have any questions feel free to PM me.

Dan

 

This dealer has a lot of history - and not much of it that I've heard is good. They have a reputation among a lot of enthusiasts that is less than positive. With this in mind, proceed with a great deal of caution.

On the other hand, Motorcars International of Springfield Missouri has a similar Testarossa (1985 with 10K on the ODO). They have a good reputation (and my personal endorsement as a customer of their's). Give them a call and see if you might be more comfortable dealing with them.

And while I know that that just sounded like a sales pitch I can assure you I have no stake in them or their sales. Just an idea. Best of luck to you.

 

I would assume that "conditional deposit" is will they return it or not and I would bet the world that the books and tools were not stolen, but simply missing. That is how that group works, making up a story instead of just telling the truth. The TR at Motorcars does look like a great car as well. I would rather pay more for a great TR than save and get a marginal one, it will end up being a very costly experience more than likely. Best of Luck

 

[/QUOTE] Books & Records are also a problem with this car, they were reportedly stolen.

Tools got stolen too, but they replaced them already.[/QUOTE]

And so it begins... Is anyone suprised??? You don't even have the basic info on this car to make a good decision and yet you are still speaking with them? Be careful - this is where a lot of people get so excited about having the car that they throw all caution and sense to the side in the pursuit to get it.

Take a step back and consider that you asked this board for some advice. You rec'd several posts - all of which have thrown up a HUGE red flag on this dealer group - and you are still in negotiations. Take this advice from these guys seriously - there are a lot of people here who know the exotics world pretty well. Personally I would run the other direction just as fast as I could.

Now if that isn't enough of a warning to you, then I am going to have a hard time feeling bad for you when you get scr*wed. Find a better car. They are out there - believe me. You just need to remain patient until you find it. Heck - ask these guys where to look. They may know where to direct you to a car which is pristine, has all records and services, and will actually be from a reputable dealer who will stand behind what they sell.

I'm not sure what else to tell you. That's my $0.02 - but I'm sure it's worth a LOT more in this case. Walk away. Just walk away.

 

it was nice getting a chance to chat with you on the phone earlier, the car looked to be in diecent shape, a couple of other things i noticed after we hung up was a couple of rock chips on the undercarriage/bottom of the hood, and a couple of other minor dings, i've got some pics and will pm you shortly, but after reading your last post james, i would say to be very cautious as to what the conditions are for the ppi, especially what happens if you choose to walk away from the car. the fact that your willing to pay for the inspection should more then take care of the deposit, but who knows. i wish i had of read that last post again before i left to go up there, i would have tried to find out about the tools. like fred said in the post above, just beware of the dealership, but for all we know the car could become a diamond in the rough once the ppi is done with. are you going to have them take it to bentley stl for it?

 

I think you guys should quit sugar-coating things and tell him how you really feel about him potentially buying this car!

 

Well - what can I say? The subtle approach didn't seem to be sinking in.

 

thanks for the kind words, i just hope we didn't crush your dream. i still have the pics if you'd like me to post 'em, good luck on the 86 they have in your area!

 

here are some of the pics, sry some aren't the greatest quality, i'd say the biggest problem was the seat, how the left part is becoming detached from the main seating part, my guess from someone shifting to get out, and a few rock chips/scratches here and there
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FWIW - a conditional deposit from Schmidt means if it fails PPI and you want out, they keep your deposit. If you get scammed into buying the car, they keep your deposit.

Also, don't sign an arbitration agreement from any dealership - learned this one the hard way, too!

 

i take it you've had some experience with them too

 

lol, i'd be interested in finding out what schmitt says (if that is the dealership on the phone) i can only think that by not allowing a ppi done w/o a deposit (non refundable upon a non purchase, i would assume) is only trying to hide something.