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  1. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    With friends like him....
     
  2. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Quick change of heart there Is?....;)

    Seems all of the usual suspects are keeping remarkably quiet; Crazy Helmut, The Rat, Stefano and pretty much everyone else aren't saying anything about the whole mess.

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  3. Isobel

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  4. Isobel

    Isobel F1 World Champ

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    Happy now ? Haaaa...lol
     
  5. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Oh oh.
    You're in Yoda mode.
    ;)

    Anyone with one eye and half a brain saw this coming.
    Lucky that no one was injured.
    While it looks like they're finally willing to address the tire issue is it too much to hope that they'll take a larger lesson about managing competition in general?
     
  6. VIZSLA

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    GAWD!
    I may have scrub my eyes with bleach.
     
  7. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    :eek:

    Just spoilt my entire day there I'm afraid! ;)

    That you even had access to those images is a little alarming!..... :)

    Cheers,
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  8. VIZSLA

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    Back to the subject.
    Todt says that Pirelli can use whatever cars they want for the newly authorized tests.
     
  9. Isobel

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    Came from our friends at Lotus F1...couldn't resist sharing...;)
     
  10. Fast_ian

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    About time!.... I guess even Bernie draws the line at headlines like 'driver killers' and 'tyre terror'.

    I guess the young drivers will get hosed and the YDT will become a full on tyre test. Which is a start.

    However, they've still got the unanimity problem. Unless they simply say 'screw you guys, this is what we're gonna give you. Take 'em or leave 'em.'

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  11. VIZSLA

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    Oh I think that's a given at this point.
    Everybody's ox been gored.
    ;)
     
  12. vintageracer27

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    If the Young Driver Test at Silverstone is expanded to be a Pirelli test to include F1 drivers, and MB is of course excluded from this test, it will be the ideal solution: (1) Pirelli and the teams get to properly evaluate the tires to correct the delamination problem while also gaining valuable car/tire data, and (2) MB will be excluded from a meaningful test so that their violation of the testing rules will have had a real consequence.
    Let's hope it works out this way...
     
  13. Fast_ian

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  14. VIZSLA

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    Nope.
    Pirelli is not going to be messing with new drivers. They'll run the tests for their benefit and their benefit only. As they should.
     
  15. VIZSLA

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    Fourth of July special!

    Exploding tires!
     
  16. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Sniff's version of the now famous Pirelli findings;

    :D

    The follow up makes it IMO! ;)

    Cheers
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    Sniff Petrol
     
  17. VIZSLA

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    Seems reasonable.

    Sounds like Paul needs to spend some time with Dr. Phil.
    ;)
     
  18. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    +1 ;)

    He really does seem to be aging before our eyes. Who'd want his job? :eek:

    The follow up referred to above;

    :)

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    pitpass - Hembery issues a statement
     
  19. VIZSLA

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    It's getting sad,
    Can't they just agree to let it rest?
    ;)
     
  20. Simon^2

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    Todays race basically became a tire management affair...

    right from the start... every car was within 0.1 sec lap time managing the tires. Massive clag build up... graining... tire explosion...

    If they want to build tires that fail after 5 laps,... fine... But the FIA has to give the teams enough sets so they can choose to push or manage tire wear...
     
  21. Fast_ian

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    They've always had to manage tires to a certain degree. One could argue they've gone too far, but;

    Just doing what they were asked to do......

    Cheers,
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  22. Simon^2

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    Could argue? The teams did not have enough sets to push for the length of the race.

    For all the fans who paid money or time to watch a car race billed as the peak of automotive racing,... To expect the teams have enough tires to last a race distance should not be in debate...
     
  23. Bas

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    IIRC it was only Webber today and he had to go on SS for his final stints after he suffered a puncture from running over debris (ironically from Perez' tire exploding).

    IMO what should be done is get rid of those marbles. They spoil overtaking to a certain degree IMO. Run on those and your tires are in bad shape for a couple of laps.

    Also perhaps make races a little less about tire management.

    The latter is very difficult to do though. With the tech available now, if they improve the tires durability everyone will be back to running single stops very quickly. They can however make a team choose their compound tires for the weekend so they don't have to run on both compounds anymore.
     
  24. Simon^2

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    I've never agreed with limiting sets or the 2 tire rule... I'd prefer Pirelli to bring all 4 sets to each track and let the teams run what the want.

    I'd love to see Lotus/Kimi run SS for 4 stints (3 stops) and Force India run the hards on a no stopper. Would all the teams end up on the same strategy? maybe at the pointy end of the field,... but at the midfield or back of the grid? Who knows.

    As for the current regs,... Tire management for the race starts in quali.

    It's really gone too far IMHO.
     
  25. VIZSLA

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    It went too far long ago. Now it's just an embarrassment.
     

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