PD Gough Exhausts - Sports or Super Sports?

Well, people who would have "an opinion" about you driving a/your Ferrari will have that opinion anyway, loud pipes or not. I guess they don't drive Ferraris themselves, probably..

But serious. Do you really care what others think, when driving any car you might (not) own, when driving safe and road legal ? There you go...

 

I had an exhaust box made for my 3.2 mondial-mine was fine around town , but had a great tone when you put your foot down, as far as i know it was the quiet version and it was enough for me. You still had to turn the radio up on the motorway, same as the ansa original. I dont think you would want any more noise.
Very good workmanship, just be sure the pipes match up exactly to the box so you dont strain the rest of the system-

 

You know what they say:

"If it's too loud, you're too old." LOL

That said, I have a Corvette with a 496 cubic inch big block and sidepipes, so I may be slightly biased.

 

Wondering if any manufacturer makes a "Sports" style exhaust for the 308s that can operate like modern exhausts do in terms of throwing a switch (vacuum assist that I have seen) and opening ports?

Andy I hear what you are saying about noise and I love the option of activating the Sports exhausts on my Boxter Spyder and Macan Turbo when I want to.

 

Capristo and Kreissig. But neither is cheap...

Rgds

 

Andy, to the average frenchman, your glossary is missing the meaning of "oik"?

Rgds

 

Got it! Thanks.

Rgds

 

OK, that made me laugh. Around me, it is the clapped out Honda's with the 4" tip that sound like a weed whacker or leaf blower.

Honestly, I would say that the Sport is probably what you want. There is always the temptation to go bigger with engines or louder with exhaust but at some point, you reach the point that you dread driving the car more that 10 minutes. Every car is a compromise.

My big block puts down 413 hp at the rear wheels and can scare me in a heartbeat if there is any moisture on the road at all. The sidepipes are loud if I get on it but mild enough that I can hear the radio at cruise, so I am happy with those. I have a lightweight flywheel that can make driving in traffic tricky. I keep thinking about going to a heavier flywheel and smaller cam to tame the car down a bit, but that is low priority for me plus I feel the car is right at the edge of being daily driveable.

Somebody will always be faster (or louder). Make yourself happy and don't worry about the other bloke.

 

It is also very useful, whenever possible, to drive a car of the same model fitted with the prospective exhaust before buying it, because the noise from the inside of the cockpit is very different from the one people hear on the outside when the car is passing by...

Rgds

 

Slightly biased or deaf maybe ? I had 40 years of industrial diesels, turbo chargers and steam turbines so i am probably as deaf as you.

 

I prefer a relatively quiet exhaust on a Ferrari. Don't wish to drown out the mechanical noises.

 

I have not fitted one but I have taken one off!

My 328 had one fitted and it was too loud. But it's possible that I should not be taken as a reliable source of opinion because I have never understood the loud exhaust thing. As a design engineer the concept of replacing something which does its job worse does not make sense to me. I would rather have the engine making nice enginey noises rather than be deafened by exhaust boom.

Also most other people hate loud exhausts on cars that drive by, so there does not seem to me to be any benefit to anyone.

You are welcome to my removed one but not sure if it will fit?

 

Hi Andy I have a gough exhaust fitted to my 328 it loud but totally manageable, I love the sound it makes.
On a warm engine tick over its running at 85-95db and at 2500 rpm it's at 115db

When you change down the gears the popping/banging noise it makes is Fantastic, I would never change it.

So I must have the sports exhaust version fitted

 

Four valve engines (QVs and 3,2) on all non-cat cars have the same exhaust "line", that is same manifolds, same intermediary pipes, same silencer box (well: not exactly on minutes details on the OEM silencer, such as the metal "Y" for the two groups of stainless steel pipes each side for instance) but these are fully interchangeable, so an aftermarket exhaust from a 328 will bolt without modification onto the exhaust line of a QV.

However, an exhaust from a four valve engine will not go onto the exhaust line of a two-valve injected car, or on a carbed car: the exhaust lines are different, notably the intermediary pipes: actually there are no separate intermediary pipes on the two valve cars, so the exhaust box will not fit.

Rgds

 

The aftermarket exhaust eurospares sells for the mondial comes from p d gough, so go direct if you want to save shed loads of money

 

I also took off a PD Gough system & replaced it with a standard one. I kind of miss the burble at idle but overall I don't miss it. I may put it back on one day but only if I'm not planning on going any distance for a while. Good used standard systems are appearing less frequently for sale on Ebay these days...I think I paid £75 for mine (and another £50 for a second spare one I have hanging on my garage wall )

Re the manifolds, you ,might consider getting them ceramic coated before you put them on - Zircotec or similar.

 

Be sure to have a good look at the flanges where the pipes join up, as they corrode and become very thin

 

Gough's are just around the corner from my works. They are good quality and make exhaust to numerous brands that sell the same exhaust. When I needed a new manifold they were a lot more expensive than Superformance and upon checking both manifolds they were virtually the same and made out of the same stainless. So bought a Superformance one. Had my silencer bespoke made by CPE in Bradford as we use them for our engine requirements at work. I gave them my old Ansa to use as a benchmark. They opened up the breathing and dia of the silencer, certainly improved low end pick up. Noisy but not too stupid, but these old cars aren't the quietest. Having it too loud can be tiring on a long run