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Paul Walker from Fast and Furious died in a wreck...

Discussion in 'General Automotive Discussion' started by Matt LaMotte, Nov 30, 2013.

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  1. TexasF355F1

    TexasF355F1 Six Time F1 World Champ
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    Even though we like to give the F&F series flack, it's clear the recurring characters are as close as family. And you have to respect the hell outta that.
     
  2. rmani

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    Agreed. I love the characters. The action is silly and getting too over the top, but the way the cast meshes is rare. Not to mention that i also grew up watching them it really gets to me.
     
  3. TexasF355F1

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    Same here, and own the first one. The second one disappointed me and havent sat through an entire movie of any others.
     
  4. rmani

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    Watch the fourth one when the characters all come back. It's awesome.
     
  5. NürScud

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  6. CornersWell

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    It's a problem...

    I've seen a guy show up at a track day with a new-to-him 333SP on old sneakers and couldn't get out of the pit without spinning it. Then, on his first lap, in T1, he puts it off and does damage to the splitter. Day over. Thousands in damage.

    CW
     
  7. absent

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    This write up blames the tires not the driver.
    It's like blaming a gun instead of a guy using it to kill someone.
    Rhodas, being a "good driver" should know better and not attempt to drive at more then twice the speed limit on 9 year old tires (that every professional or even very experienced amateur would be very aware of).
    Tires were a factor in this accident, driver was solely responsible.
     
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  8. CornersWell

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    Well, while what you say is true (that everything is under the control of the driver), it's also true that hard-as-a-hockey-puck sneakers likely contributed to this loss of control. I don't think it necessarily absolves the driver, but the driver also paid a heavy price. So, would he have willingly and intentionally driven in this manner had he had a simple warning, "Hey, remember that these are OLD tires."?

    I don't know that I would consider this an "equipment failure." Admittedly, it's not like a suspension breaking, collapsing and throwing the car into a spin, but neither is totally undetectable or unpredictable. It's more like a consumable that wasn't changed when used up or timed out. So, if you forget to change the engine oil, is it the engine that fails or the fact that the oil wasn't viscous any longer?

    I think it merely serves as a reminder that the contact patches that keep these cars on the road shouldn't be forgotten. And, in an age where street cars are producing 700bhp straight off the showroom floor, it's pretty important to remember to keep those sneakers fresh.

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  9. Peloton25

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    This isn't "latest news" this is an opinion piece. The age of the tires was known and reported on within weeks of the crash and I shared that detail here:

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/142801186-post561.html

    Good of Matt to publish something that keeps the importance of tire age fresh in people's minds, but it is hardly new information as to a major contributing cause of this accident.

    >8^)
    ER
     
  10. NürScud

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    Yes, my bad, i used wrong words for the article's title. Of course it is just an opinion and it's interesting.
     
  11. No Doubt

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    TMZ is really the bottom of the barrel. All about the clicks. How is Porsche celebrating the crashes.

    I hate them.
     
  13. norcal2

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    I guess the better question would be is a 6.4% loss ratio in the first 2 years high or not? I wonder what the rest of the data would say current...
     
  14. NürScud

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    Like you said... 'the bottom of the barrel'....
     
  15. cheesey

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    is there a published table that demonstrates the loss of grip as a tire ages... for a visual of reasonable degradation of grip... as a wake up demo of how bad tires get as they age... there is more than seeing tread on an older tire

    the common recommendation is that tires over five years of age fall into a "deteriorated condition" or out of spec for reliable expectation of safety... suggesting that the tires should be replaced in interest of retaining designed margin of safety

    all tires are date coded, matching up existing tires from old stock is compromising safety and accepting a shorter safe operating life
     
  16. BMW.SauberF1Team

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