Painting my 308

There is HUGE difference between a full restoration (body and interior, not including motor rebuild/work) a full resto will include painting control arms, inner fenders, engine compartment with motor out, etc., and a paint job.

If you want to pay $50K for a paint job, be my guest.
I know what I paid, and you won't find better paint jobs out there. Period. As far as straightness of body work, and paint lay down quality.


Here is $8500 paint/body work job on a truck i own. And, what they started with, though that $8500 also included a bunch of body work and the primer you see on the fenders they previously did so i could fit things prior to them getting the truck back for final paint.

They returned a mostly assembled truck, though I did all the detail assembly, including glass install, wiring, bed wood and interior. The third pic shows getting ready to push it onto a trailer to bring it home, I am the fat guy with the sunglasses second from right.

Doug
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BTW, here are some tips of finding reasonably priced paint shop.

Avoid the big name places, the ones that advertise.

You will get the best referrals thru word of mouth, usually in the classic car and hot rod communities, but if you have no connections there, its hard to get referrals.

And, i was once told to my face: 'I won't have anything to do with Jaguar or Ferrari owners, they are all a**hole pricks", which probably makes the cost of getting stuff done, quoted higher.

Doug

 

Just go to Maaco or Earl Scheib problem solve.

 

Beautiful 61! stunning -

 

I heard good things about this place but most likely in the high side

I get my car serviced next door

https://richardmullincoachbuilding.com/

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"And, i was once told to my face: 'I won't have anything to do with Jaguar or Ferrari owners, they are all a**hole pricks",

Based on several local Ferrari car "shows" that I attended with my 328 not long after I bought it, I tend to agree. Of course it does not apply here because we are all 3x8 owners and, therefore, we (as I was told), "don't own REAL Ferrari's"

 

Bella Bella

 

MAACO can, and will do a very good job, if you let them know what you want and are wiling to pay for it.

A local guy got a beautiful paint job done on a 1937 Plymouth coupe that he restored as all original, they stripped the car, did required finishing body work, primed, blocked, primed, and painted, color sanded and buffed.

He said they had the car (body on frame) for about a year, and it turned out stunning, but it wasn't $699.95, either. I didn't ask the exact price, but i got the impression is wasn't all that much. I know his brother well, i will find out.

Doug

 

LOL!

 

I was thinking it would be 10-15k to put my Dino back to the original color. I’m a bit worried about that now! [emoji53]


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I got my bodywork (door bottoms changed, patches at the bottom of the rear fenders, unpainted boot/trunk panels replaced, side light holes closed) and the old top few layers sanded off, epoxy sealed, new paint and clear coats... I visited weekly for 2 months and saw how much work it was. It’s not perfect but very good and cost around $15k. They were muscle car enthusiasts but did some European cars.

 

Arroyo in North Hollywood. Raphael Arroyo's wife told me he past away a few years ago (that was last year - sad), but his wife has taken-over the business. They do a lot of work for Ferrari of BH, and they are very good. I don't know if they'll want to take on a 308, as they do more high-end and collectable Ferrari's (330GT, Lusso, Daytona, 246, et al), but if you're still looking, give them a call. They're on...IIRC...Farmdale.

 

There are people quoting the old saying: "You get what you pay for!" - But the reality is, in many cases, you get less than you pay for.

People assume that because they've paid $50K plus for a paint job, it's automatically better than a $20K paint job, simply because it cost more.

Whilst there will be occasions where that is true, there will also be occasions where people are paying $50K plus, for what is really a $20K paint job, because they have been blinded by the idea of: "You get what you pay for!" - And that's a very nice $35K profit for the paint shop involved!

The only way you would be able to tell if the paint job was really worth an extra $30K, would be to have two cars painted, one at a paint shop charging $50K, one at a paint shop charging $20K, and then comparing the quality of the work carried out. This has two obvious issues:

1) How many people have two "identical" cars and the money to carry out what is basically a $70K+ experiment?

2) Not only is the initial quality of the paint job important, but so is the long term quality (how often have you seen a paint job that looks show quality when just done, but a couple of years down the road, looks awful? - More often than you'd like I suspect!)

The facts are:

There are some paint shops that do top quality paint jobs and charge top Dollar for them.
There are some paint shops that do mediocre quality paint jobs and charge top Dollar for them.
There are some paint shops that do poor quality paint jobs and charge top Dollar for them.
There are some paint shops that do top quality paint jobs and don't charge top Dollar for them.
There are some paint shops that do mediocre quality paint jobs and don't charge top Dollar for them.
There are some paint shops that do poor quality paint jobs and don't charge top Dollar for them.

The ideal trick is to find a paint shop that does a top quality paint job, but doesn't charge top Dollar for it.

If you really want to find out if you: "You get what you pay for!" - Send me your Ferrari, and I'll do a paint job for $250,000.

I'll warn you straight away that I'm not a painter of any description, and definitely not a car painter, but I'll happily rattle can your pride and joy for $250,000

 

I promise myself each and every time, I will never do another custom paint job ever never. The van was 2k in just materials for low grade Omni. My ex wife’s 35 Auburn was 12k in materials with me doing everything. The Outlaw will be my last ever full paint job. I don’t think I could afford someone to paint stuff. Did I mention I hate bodywork even more
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It's a nice paint job, but the prancing horse facing the wrong way would drive me nuts (especially as there's a Scuderia Ferrari badge right next to it, with the horse the correct way round)

 

Yeah, well, you can't have that big horse running backwards down the freeway.
Doug

 

Exactly why I did it. I’ve heard the van was totaled, the owner of it fell asleep on the freeway…..

 

Can anyone post up a written estimate to paint a 308? I’d love to see one

 

Here's mine. This may not be 100% what you're looking for, but it's helpful. This quote was to repair a scratch/small dent on the passenger's side rear fender, and it's for a 308 GT4. Since it's a unibody design, essentially the whole car has to be repainted. In this case, they wouldn't paint the three deck-lids, lights, or doors since they're removable, but pretty much everything else.

I would assume this would be fairly close to the estimate of a respray in the same color. This place was the only place that would give me a written estimate, and they were also the cheapest (other places were telling me a minimum of $30,000). Some places flat out declined to do it because they don't want to (or lack the knowledge to) work on old cars. Click the ling below to see the estimate.

The Works Estimate

 

Chris I am sincerely wishing you the very best outcome with your GT4 . Could have sworn you said they were going to do a complete body restoration on this vehicle or did I misunderstand and you meant a quick color change? Been over your estimate about four times and kind of left me scratching my head so do I understand these numbers correctly?
Total body labor for this project. -49.9 hrs.
Apply primer - 0.3 hrs.
Prime and Block. - No time listed
Cut in polish finish coat. -8.0 hrs
No time listed for door removal or repairs that may be needed.
No time listed for Rost repair if needed.
Would also add that doing a complete color change is twice as much work as just outside bodywork/finish work.
Final price of $20,000 all in seems very reasonable for a complete quality color change.(removal of doors/decklids/stripping and repainting front and rear trunks/Door jams/underside of all bonnets/headlight units/interior floor and bulkhead.)