Pagani or Bugatti ?

I never said I would use a zonda F to its full potential every day.

What I wrote wasn't aimed at you, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. IMO, the Veyron is just overrated and a tad boring, if you will.

Yup I sort of wrote that in my reply, but dosed of halfway through I think. Must be all those facts about the Veyron that come over so german

 

Pagani Zonda... Well, it was the first "exotic" I fell in love with

 

I too was at the factory in 2004 when the Zonda F was just coming around. Horacio was the most welcoming of everybody there. He had a unpainted carbon fiber Zonda, I cant remember if it was a C12 or an F but it was gorgeous. Zonda any day any time. Plus, if you compare the Veyron SS to the Zonda R or Cinque... seriously drool.

C12, F, Cinque, R > Veyron

 

Pagani anyday. P is just much sportier than the Bug and a lot more attractive.

The Bug has cool tech & engineering but the styling really turns me off
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I'd really consider a Cinque over a standard Veyron, but any other Zonda I'd have the Veyron. The top speed doesn't bother me that much, after all you're never going to achieve it, unless you own a 13 miles test track with a 5 mile arrow straight, straight. The Veyron is such an engineering achievement and a big FU to what possible, not in just what it does but how easily it does it, in the same way the the Nissan GT-R is but on a cheaper smaller scale. The Veyron is often criticised for how it looks, which I happen to like, I find the Zonda is to busy and in your face to live with.

 

Easily the Zonda, without hesitation.

 

I think if many of the Zonda fans had the chance to even ride in a Veyron their tune might be changing. The car is unlike any other, it truly is a world apart. My favorite stat is that it can go from 0-60-0 in less than 5 seconds and I can vouch for that.

That said, one huge advantage the Veyron has for me is that it has class.
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+1 on all of that.

 

Zonda. Better looking, lighter, rear-wheel drive, 3 pedals, and the lovely CF body work.

 

Zonda - totally...

 

McLaren F1. Looks better than both of those cars combined...by 300 miles.

 

Thank God people are different.

 

Ill take a Zonda over a Veyron anyday. I think the Veyron is waaaaay overrated. especially now adays were a GTR can beat it.

 

Zonda

But would want neither

 

Zonda.

 

First I've heard, using any metric, where a GTR can beat a Veyron.

 

Neither

 

Donor GT-R + 50-60.000 $ and the GT-R can surely beat it in some measurements, but not all of course...

But this to me is like comparing a ZR1 with a 599 GTO... Can't deny the difference in quality and attraction...

 

I totally agree I think the Zr1 looks great and kills and you can buy 4 of them

 

Hehe

 

The ZR1 really is the better looking car...599 is far to oversized and bloated for me to really like it. From a distance it looks ok, but not from up close.

 

I wasn't being sarcastic. I agree. The latest v12's aren't good out of Maranello and 425k for a 599gto. Lmao.

100k zR1 is a bargain.

 

how come they pretend to charge $1M + for a car with zero $ 0 engine development ???


Let the numbers speak for themselves :

* In 10 years (1999 - 2010) they hardly sold less than a 100 Zondas ...

* on the other hand the Veyron introducen in 2006 has sold 500 or so cars so far ....

 

~ 380, they'll never go over a total of 450. 300 Veyrons, production is now done and 150 Grand Sports.

 

For myself I think I would choose the Bugatti as it holds alot more historic value for me. The Pagani is oh so awesome but lets not forget it has a BMW based engine and the Bugatti was the first manufacturer to introduce the W16 engine configuration [yet to be seen in any other production vehicle] and to top that in a quad turbo configuration.

If I could afford one I could own both in a perfect world.