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Discussion in '360/430' started by Rfong, Sep 19, 2008.

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  1. Rfong

    Rfong Karting

    Jul 17, 2007
    70
    San Francisco
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    Ron Fong
    #1 Rfong, Sep 19, 2008
    The overheating clutch with F1 or Egear on a Lambo is a very disappointing weakness in stop and go traffic. It takes the joy out of what should be an exhilarating experience. Instead it puts worry into getting caught in heavy traffic on your way to and from a spirited drive. It is a real problem that has not been solved by Lambo or Ferrari. Not all drives can be on mountain treks and in the real world a car should be able to drive normally in congested stop and go traffic.

    I wonder if Porsche's PDK dual clutch has solved this problem? Or if the new California dual clutch addresses this fault?

    Does a manual 6 speed Ferrari 360/F430 or Lambo Gallardo experience these overheating clutch problems in slow traffic? Does a manual suffer from slipping and overheating if held and started on a steep hill one time? Does a manual behave badly when going uphill in reverse?

    I know the F430 F1 still overheats in traffic but was there a Gallardo model year that had a better performing Egear than any other. I also know the new 09 Gallardo Egear shifts faster, but does it still overheat?

    If a manual does not have the overheating clutch problem my next car will be a 6 speed.
     
  2. silk32

    silk32 Formula Junior

    Jul 16, 2005
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    matt
    #2 silk32, Sep 19, 2008
    in traffic i usually switch to manual shifting mode in my gallardo and just keep it in 2nd gear
     
  3. Financialman

    Financialman Formula 3

    Sep 8, 2005
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    Dan Carpenter
    #3 Financialman, Sep 19, 2008
    My F1 never over heats in traffic and I have been in some of the worst LA traffic ever!

    Never had a problem with my 355F1, 360F1 and now my 430F1. Just drive it like a stick and you should be fine, unless something is wrong with your system.
     
  4. Victor Li

    Victor Li Karting

    Sep 1, 2008
    74
    Hong Kong
    #4 Victor Li, Sep 20, 2008
    I do experienced overheat problem on my F1 when I am in traffic. The car will stop completely and you need to wait for 10 mins before you can start up the car again. My car is 01 F360. Ferrari service told me that I can upgrade the ECU of the F1 gearbox and this will help the problem and the old SW is too sensitive. They also recommend manual will be the best choice and this will also avoid the F1 pump failure problem.
     
  5. Rfong

    Rfong Karting

    Jul 17, 2007
    70
    San Francisco
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    Ron Fong
    #5 Rfong, Sep 22, 2008
    I posted this issue in hopes that an owner of a 6 speed 360 would respond to verify that their 6 speed clutch does not overheat as frequently as an F1 clutch.

    I would have thought a 6 speed owner would have been proud of this advantage and would have welcomed the opportunity to tout it.

    Without any response to this thread, am I to believe the 6 speed clutch is just as fragile as the F1 clutch?
     
  6. mrpcar

    mrpcar Formula 3

    May 27, 2007
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    Chino hills, CA
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    Robin
    #6 mrpcar, Sep 22, 2008
    Ron,

    The manual clutch is the same material and thickness as the F1 clutch, the difference is in the slipperage. With the manully clutch the driver is in full control of how much slipperage you allow during take off or during gear shifts. So, it is all driver depend. I do know that in order for your F1 clutch to last you will have to adjust your driving habit by leaving enough space in between the car in front of you, this way the clutch can be fully engaged and you just creep forward instead of stop and go. Of course you don't have too much choice with bumper to bumper traffic or constant uphill stop and go. The bottom line is that the F1 transmission is just not made for that kind of driving. The price you pay for putting your car through that environment is the cost of the clutch replacement.
     
  7. marcmc8867

    marcmc8867 Formula 3

    Jul 27, 2004
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    Marc M.
    #7 marcmc8867, Sep 22, 2008
    My '01 360 Spider seems to do OK in traffic but it has a really, really hard time with in-town driving in very hilly or mountainous areas. I went to visit my old college town last month (Ithaca, NY) with stop signs and stop lights, etc. on inclines all over the place. It only took a few minutes driving around for the clutch to really start slipping badly and embarassingly. And this is on a car with a brand new kevlar clutch which performs flawlessly all day long on track.

    It made me wonder how anyone drives an F1 car in places like San Francisco?? I mean its ridiculous.
     

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