Orinigal Order Sheet received, thrilled yet shocked!

I found some pictures of the car parked next to my 328.

It was a 1984 car
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I used to own a 1979 308 GTB, #29133, which was Rosso Rubino. What you're describing and what shows in your profile car pic is nowhere close to Rosso Rubino. Rubino is clearly a Burgundy shade and you would certainly know it if you saw it.

When inspecting your car for a repaint, check out of the way areas for a different color, as it's unlikely someone tore your car all the way down to the bare metal chassis just for a paint job. Easy way to check before/after shades of paint.

 

Carbed 308 GTS #23301 in Salchi "Rosso rubino":

Ferrari 308 GTS CARBURATORI 1 SERIES ROSSO RUBINO d'occasion, Essence, ? 129 000,- à Ravenna - Ra

Rgds

 

Yes that sounds about right. It would be more now, but sounds right for 1988.

I dont blame them one bit for repainting it in Rosso Corsa. There is a rarity value of Rosso Met but that is outweighed by the colour itself which is just not desirable at all (hence the rarity!). Its much too close to pink. There is another metallic red which is a current Ferrari colour but this was completely different.

 

As usual, you're on top of this stuff

However, note in the English text description: 'orginal ROSSO RUBINO SALCHI color,'

Seller does NOT say original paint; rather, original color. This has to be a repaint, as late 70s Ferrari paint was prone to crazing over time, including the car I used to own. That said, in a couple of the darker pics, the color looks similar to mine, but in most of the pics the color is noticeably brighter than the color on mine. I have some old pics of 29133, but they're analog and hard to tell exactly what they should be, as the photos age and colors change over 25+ years.

I have no idea what brand of paint was originally used on 29133, and don't even remember if the paint sticker was on it when I owned it. I just knew it was Rosso Rubino. Remember, this was way before the web and info was either non-existent or very hard to come by...

 

My 328 was delivered new to the UK,any tips on how and who to contact to get the same information?

 

Not sure of current contact information but its been posted before and/or google

 

There's a very good chance that Greypaul would have used Ferfaro Coachworks to paint the car because Tony was doing most of the high end paint work for the Sytner Group at that time, including Frank Sytner's own cars, so it might be worth contacting them to see if they have any records. A Google search for "Ferfaro Coachworks Ilkeston" will find them.

Paul

 

Rosso Rubino is very dark, almost Burgundy. The Salmon color is often confused as Rosso Rubino, but is not the same color.

 

I don't think Tony Ferfaro has a website. He is very well know in high end classic circles and doesn't need to advertise. He's restored some of the most valuable cars in the world in his time, including GTO's.

Paul

 

Well, perhaps it seems necessary to state again a few things?

Of course, 302/C could not have been available before 1981 on a Ferrari, because 1981 is the year Glasurit became the provider of paints for Ferrari.
The 1979 "Rosso Rubino" by Salchi MIGHT have been different from the 302/C from Glasurit, but the two colors are probably "close" or "very close".
Think of "Blu Sera", for instance, that has been available on Ferraris since the 1960s: this color was provided by many different manufacturers along the years, but every different "Blu Sera" was close or very close to the one manufactured before or after by a different company.

302/C and 305/C are not the same color, as I wrote above, and were indeed available at the same time: one did not replace the other from day 1.
Furthermore, considering the small production of Ferrari, it was always possible to have your car painted in a "more or less" "obsolete" paint: think about the dozen or so 328s in "boxer paint scheme" by the factory, a scheme that was not officially available on the catalogue anymore...but still available on request.

305/C indeed has a "salmon" look; 302/C is darker and (probably) very close to Salchi's "Rosso Rubino".

Finding the exact tone and hue of 302/C with pictures will be close to impossible as paints change as they age, and pictures never give the "right" color:
If they are period pictures, all argentic films distort colors (think about orthochromatics, etc..)
If they are digital, they are not always right either and the paint might have aged.

Your only "true and right" answer would be provided by the paint manufacturer with his enameled samples and -should it exists -a reference to an official system of color definitions (a match to the RAL, Federal Standard, etc...).
Then you would be provided with a 100% exact match to the original 302/C, easy to replicate, absolutely accurate.

Rgds

 

Steven,

Assuming (this is what I think I have understood??) that you want to bring the car back to its "original" color, there is also a decision to take: what should the paint of the car looks like today?
Brand new fresh color, just as it was when she left the production line? In that case, perhaps there is still hope from Glasurit or PPG?
Slightly faded as it would be after 30 years? Then some pictures of a late 1982 car in 302/C would help.
The problem is that it is a rare color indeed...
Perhaps someone might be able to help with paint chips form this period?

According to this list of colors from Matthias Urban's work, the "Rosso Rubino" from Glasurit was 308/C.
Rosso Met, then Rosso 302/C were simply "Rosso Metallic" indeed. But even if they were not called "Rubino" they might have been close...

http://www.f-register.com/downloads/colour_codes.pdf

Rgds

 

Oh, no doubt indeed: rare it is. Of course it would be nice to find a pic of a 308 in that color, but perhaps you might find another model displaying it, such as a Mondial or a 400? Just saying...

Rgds

 

piezo,

If I may, be careful with color reference you can find on the web. Reds seem very different depending on color profil of the image.

Looking at your last list of reference, the Rosso Corsa 300/600/900, Rosso 304, Oro Chiaro 106, Rosso Dino 301, Rosso Chiaro 307 and Rosso Rubino 308 never use the "C" at the end (don't ask me why, the list comes from Glasurit itself..)

Bluemel book says that the prefix FER means Metallic paint, that is wrong, FER is before each reference for Ferrari paint color on Glasurit paint chip.
For a while, I thought the "C" was the indication of a metallic paint but that is wrong either. Only the name "met." shows the finish.

Concerning the list, from informations I have (which stay conditionnal of course, I am not an actor in this business) for Rosso's made by Glasurit are:

Rosso Corsa is 300 in 1981 then 300/600 from 83 to 87 then 300/900 after
Rosso Met. is 302/00C on 1981 and 1982
Rosso Met. is 305/00C from 1983
Rosso Chiaro is 307 from 1980
Rosso Rubino Met. is 308 from 1980
Rosso Dino 301 from 1981
Rosso 304 from 1983

The others like Rosso Cordoba, Rosso Barchetta are not on my list but could have been ordered for special request. Salchi code are completely different but you can see the same range of color in each brand.
I have seen one car on Anamera's showing the 302/00C but I can't find it again, I just have the sticker label....
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1981 308GTSi special ordered Glasurit Rosso Barchetta FER 312.
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I took this for you in the sun. On an iPad or iPhone the representation is nearly spot on.
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Oh...and it's a stunning color!