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F8 Ordering F8 Spider vs. Lambo Aventador S

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  1. harrish

    harrish Rookie

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    The only Ferrari I ever owned was a California 30 and I wasn’t overly impressed. I also drove a portifino and found the steering way too soft. I know these aren’t fair comparisons which is why I’m contemplating the F8 Spider.

    I presently have the Aventador Roadster and have an opportunity to trade to the newer model Aventador S which has rear wheel steering 740bhp etc. I know the Lambo is substantially more on MSRP but separate from that I’m torn between the F8 and the AV.

    The AV has a monster V12 and the sound, power and exotic feel factor are incomparable. Many people are opposed to the ISR but I personally don’t mind.

    Do any members here have a comparison to the AV? What are your thoughts? Also, how should I anticipate resale value of the F8 Spider to hold up? The thought of custom building something from scratch is very exciting and is a dream come true for me as would be the case with the F8 but the AVS is also very enticing.
     
  2. SoCal to az

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    Two totally different t cars. Lambo is brute force. Like putting the Fridge in your backfield and turning him into a fullback to score a touchdown. The F8- more elegant, soft, fast.

    really hard to compare the two. Depreciation is gonna suck on both of the. So if that’s the worry- a Pista spider would be better or a 488 spider for truly a value buy.

    Nothing has presence like a lambo but f8 is an amazing car. Drive them both to decide
     
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  3. tekaefixe

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    Drive them both!
     
  4. mkraft3003

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    Which one do you like better? How’s the resale on the aventador? I see you can get a 2 year old one for about 130k+ discount. You would be paying msrp and waiting for an F8 vs. buying a used aventadar s right now so I’m not sure it’s a true comparison. Bottom line is this is a decision that you should make for yourself, imo.
     
  5. Natkingcolebasket69

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    Aventador all
    The way


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  6. harrish

    harrish Rookie

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    why do you say that? Just wondering if you have experience with both.
     
  7. Thecadster

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    Hall of Fame first post. I am forever intrigued by the topic that finally rips 10+ year lurkers off the sideline (13+ year lurker in this case).
     
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  8. Natkingcolebasket69

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    Just the sound itself in the lambo makes it worthwhile- F8 is beautiful but coming from a lambo u will be disappointed


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  9. harrish

    harrish Rookie

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    I’ve loved exotic cars my whole life. I’d love to one day add a 360 Modena Challenge Stradale to garage.
     
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  10. Gh21631

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    If you are going use the car regularly I would say F8, special occasions and limited drives Aventador. The F8 will be more civilized and likely better performing without the drama and presence of the Lambo.
     
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  11. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    If he drives track and twisties same thing. Lambos are a step behind


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  12. Gh21631

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    yeah, a bit heavy but the AWD works really well. I would go for an SVJ in a minute.
     
  13. Ngcanada

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    I think going from the aural pleasure from the V12, the tributo will fail in this department. The car in general feels to generic, it really does not feel Ferrari to me. Completely different cars for different occasions


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  14. Surfah

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    +1. Couple friends have AVS. Massive presence on the street, panty dropping doors, V12 sounds like an angry dinosaur. Its wide so negotiating narrow parking garages/spaces can be an issue. Rear visibility looks worse than a Huracan. They complimented the RWS which drives the AVS like a smaller car.

    Not an apples to apples comparison. F8 vs EVO RWD more apprpriate. Aventador is a true flagship perhaps more so than F12/812. I think the AV sucessor will match up with the SF90.

    OP may be disappointed going to the F8. Ownership and driving will be a more sedate experience.

    Huracan owners such as myself sometimes whistfully dream of stepping up to the Big Bull one day. It remains an aspirational goal possibly more fantasy than reality.
     
  15. Gator Ferrari

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    I currently own a 2016 Aventador LP750-4 SV, a 2019 Aventador LP770-4 SJV, and a 2020 F8 Tributo (and I just sold a 2018 488 GTB and a 2013 Aventador LP700-4).

    If you want a fantastic driver's car that does everything exceptionally and still has killer looks, get the F8. If you want a nice driver that has fantastic launch and straight line performance, has incredible exotic looks, and gets tons of attention, get the Aventador S. Yes, the 4WS on the S does make a difference over the older Aventador and they have improved the clutch in both engagement and shifting substantially. The Aventador still drives and feels like a big car compared with the Ferrari. If you want value, you could choose either the 488 spider (in the $260k range now) or the Aventador LP750-4 SV ($400k range and only 600 coupe and 500 roadster made / Ring lap under 7 minutes). Before I got the F8, the 488 GTB was my favorite driver's car of everything I own. It just works. The chassis, engine, transmission, and clutch combination is sublime...really a fabulous car. The F8 builds on that with more power and improved suspension and aerodynamics.
     
  16. harrish1985

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    Thanks for the feedback. It's great to hear since you own them all. I don't want to lose the 'wow' factor when I'm driving and while the ISR in the AV is rough I really feel like I'm driving a crazy exotic. I have a test drive of the F8 coupe schedule for tomorrow so I'll see how I like it. But the AWD and rear wheel steering are big draws. I know the tech in the F8 is phenomenal as well so I'll be curious to check it out.
     
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  17. Condor Man

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    What he said....

    Plus although S has an updated gearbox it will never be a twin clutch.


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  18. Il Co-Pilota

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    Completely disagree.

    The Lambo feels big and heavy. Aside from its looks and the noise, it has nothing to offer. As a drivers car, it is nothing short of terrible. If you want to be seen in front of a nightclub an Aventador is fine, for driving fun the F8 all the way. That Pista derived engine is a masterpiece and worth it alone. To me the Aventador adhere to the philosophy of, why use a scalpel when a chainsaw will do. Furthermore I cannot get over the fact that they managed to build such a large car, and yet have a cabin even smaller than a Huracan.
    F8 all day. Aventador? Wouldn't be caught dead in one.

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  19. Natkingcolebasket69

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    I’m not sure what u completely disagree on lol
    U are saying the same thing I’m saying. The f8 is a better car but the lambo sounds much better but that’s about it. If sound is what he is looking for then Lambo otherwise F8.


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  20. Napoli

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    I encountered this same dilemma. Ended up with 812.
     
  21. wthensler

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    Incredible.
     
  22. dustman

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    And that the seats in both cars are such crap.
     
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  23. harrish1985

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    I know this is a Ferrari forum so I'm sure there's some bias but I wanted to share the following experience:

    I went to a Ferrari dealer in S. Fla. today. My salesperson, who is wonderful, advised me they had an F8 coupe in stock when I confirmed my appointment this past weekend. Upon arrival I was disappointed in learning that their F8 had gone out for a minor windshield chip repair. They had plenty of 488 Spiders in stock and I opted to test drive that instead. Mind you, my only experience in driving a Ferrari prior to today was a California and Portifino.

    When I drove the 488 I felt that the car was very nimble, fast, braked well and exhaust / engine sound was nice. The infotainment and the steering wheel controls (this car had the carbon fiber + LEDs) seemed far more advanced than the Aventador system. I was impressed with the 488 but I wasn't absolutely blow away. Upon returning to the dealer with the 488 another 488 in Blu Corsa pulled out from service. This is a color that I was hoping to order if I decided to custom build an F8 and seeing it in person further validated my affection for this tone of blue. I went back to the showroom and was just playing with the F8 configurator. The dealer has the ability to see all options, not just what's on the Ferrari website.

    15-20 minutes later my sales person came back in and to my surprise told me the F8 came back from service. Game time! I walked around the car admiring it. I noticed that it sits a bit higher than my Aventador, is smaller overall and the tires aren't as wide. But then I got in, became comfortable and started revving the motor. I noticed that in neutral it wouldn't rev as easily and the exhaust note / engine sound was def. more muted than the 488. My dealer advised me that several people have put aftermarket exhausts and that it's made quite a difference. I then took the F8 out of the dealer and opened her up. My oh my. I was completely blown away! I thought the 488 was fast but this was on another level. The steering felt tighter, the brakes felt better and the car handled like it was on rails. The turbo spool sounds were also exhilarating. But I just couldn't get over how much power this car had. To be honest I felt a little uncomfortable around sharp turns since it's a RWD car. I guess coming from an AWD car that'll take some getting used too. Overall, I was very much impressed with the F8. It felt technologically advanced and was just so easy and nimble to drive. I could basically daily drive this car. Comparing it to the AV and I'm sure AVS there is no comparison with the exotic doors and engine noise. But separate from that I am thoroughly impressed with the F8. I decided to put down a deposit and built a nice spec and hopefully this time next year it'll be here in the states!
     
  24. Coincid

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    [QUOTE c. I have a test drive of the F8 coupe schedule for tomorrow so I'll see how I like it. But the AWD and rear wheel steering are big draws. I know the tech in the F8 is phenomenal as well so I'll be curious to check it out.[/QUOTE]

    Test driving the F8 for 20 minutes with the Ferrari sales rep on congested city streets will not even begin to reveal how special, capable and compelling this car is. Nor will you be able to accurately hear how pleasing the sound is since that would entail race - manual mode and keeping the revs above 4K.
     
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  25. harrish1985

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    Test driving the F8 for 20 minutes with the Ferrari sales rep on congested city streets will not even begin to reveal how special, capable and compelling this car is. Nor will you be able to accurately hear how pleasing the sound is since that would entail race - manual mode and keeping the revs above 4K.[/QUOTE]

    I hit triple digit speeds several times, roads weren't congested and I took on the freeway. I had the best salesman ever. But to your point if I was giddy in 20 mins I could only imagine what a longer drive would feel like. My only 2 concerns were that the back end felt like it wanted to spin out sideways under hard acceleration and that the exhaust note wasn't my top choice. I'm sure tire temp. etc. played a role in how grippy the car felt.
     

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