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Opinions Lancia Delta Integrale 16V

Discussion in 'Other Italian' started by ParhamK, Apr 8, 2006.

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  1. ParhamK

    ParhamK Formula Junior

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    I would like to hear your opinions on this car. I know several people that have had several of them...as one of them has a integrale with 750bhp, and they are pretty skilled I would still like to know what you guys think.

    I know they have reliability issues, but if im going to buy one...im going to drop a camera through the spark plug hole and check out the interior qualitys of pistons etc....and drop all the oil to check that out as well.

    IF I can find a decent example of a 16V here in Sweden or in Italy, is it a smart buy or am I putting myself to a economical crisis?
     
  2. RussianM3_dude

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    Well, some examples still fetch upwards of 30.000 Euros. So if you get a rare Integrale like the Evo2 HF, don't beat it. Garage it. Otherwise 15-20 K Euros for a good example. But again, the car is already a classic, and will not really depriciate anymore (depending on the model.)
     
  3. jbanzai

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    #3 jbanzai, Apr 12, 2006
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    I have a red '90 Delta Integrale 16v, and I had another one, a white one, from '89 some years ago, it was stolen in 2000, it was never recovered :(. I never had reliability issues with them, they are incredibly strong.

    Now if you modify the engine over 260 bhp, then you start having problems, unless the engine and transmision has been properly prepared for the new torque loads.

    Another issue is to reinforce the chassis, installing bars between the suspension towers, specially if you plan to race it or to rally it. If you don't do it, some cracks in the cahssis might appear over time.

    Ah, and these are like Ferraris, change the cam belt every 45.000 km or else.

    - Julio
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  4. Auraraptor

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    Was there ever a sedan version of that car made with a similar design (fender flares etc)
     
  5. jbanzai

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    #5 jbanzai, Apr 13, 2006
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    Yes, the Lancia Prisma, not a big seller, and lower performance. I think it was built with the 8 valve engine only, 185 bhp, and the headlamps were square instead of the double rounded headlamps of the Delta Integrale.

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  6. Auraraptor

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    Very interesting! Thanks! Were any ever brought to the US?
     
  7. ParhamK

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    Yes because I was thinking about buying a normal 16V as a daily driver (not a Evo). Well they cost pretty much nothing here in Sweden, so I might just pick up one for fun :)
     
  8. jeffdavison

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    !982 was the last year for Lancia on the US shores, the Betas and Beta Zagatos were the last this side of the Atlantic. Alas these beauties never were tasted by the American palate. Tho I heaer there are a couple of three "grey" ones around.

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  9. Auraraptor

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    Interesing information, thanks!
     
  10. jbanzai

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    Yes, but be aware, that cheap ones are usually abused cars or even raced, the ones in good condition start in the neigborhood of 10.000€

    While 10.000€ is not much money, it is not cheap either for a 16 year old italian car, that originally cost 26.000€. The prices for the good examples is going up now becuse there are not that many out there in good condition.

    German ones, frequently have rust problems because, being rally cars, they have been used in the snow, and with the salt of the roads in Germany the cars suffer a lot of corrosion. So if you can, buy one from the south of Europe, Italy (biggest market for these after Germany), Greece, Spain or Portugal.

    Also after 16 years, there are many parts that are no longer available, specially interior and electrical parts, in particular headlamps, pilots, mirrors and badges, so pay attention to those details as you might not be able to repair them after the purchase.

    Also, the 16v version is faster than the EVOs in both acceleration and top speed. The EVO II & III have a smaller turbo and better response at lower rpms, which make them slightly better daily drivers as well as better fuel consumption. But the difference is so small that to me is insignificant. I prefer the 16v becuase is more sutle and elegant in its looks, the EVO is more like a 'tuner' car. The wider bias in the EVOs was suppoused to give them the edge in handling. But although the 16v is slightly more nervous, it is also faster than the EVO if properly driven. What is defenitly better in the EVOs are the breaks, and the fact that they also have ABS and air conditioning, the interior trim was also a bit better.

    - Julio.
     
  11. ParhamK

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    Great read thanks alot!
     
  12. SPEEDCORE

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    There is no such thing as an EVOIII from the factory(that came after the EVO2). They only made EVO 1 and 2. There is an "EVO3" soo to speak in countries like Germany and Switzerland but it was really an 8V cat EVO1.
     

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