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Discussion in '365 GT4 2+2/400/412' started by rustytractor, Dec 13, 2015.

  1. rustytractor

    rustytractor Formula 3

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    There are some malicious people out there - at the moment this is kind of below the radar to the outside world.

    Unless entry and modification access is restricted to designated people personally I think it's better off staying as it is which is a shame really.

    Just my opinion for what it's worth.
     
  2. Nathan76

    Nathan76 Formula Junior

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    I'd agree with that sentiment
     
  3. rovexienus

    rovexienus Formula Junior
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    I agree with rustytractor. The spreadsheet as it is contains unprotected personal data.
     
  4. Ramboy

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    #29 Ramboy, Dec 18, 2015
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    Thank you for entering your engine numbers.

    If anyone is having difficulty finding their engine number see attached photos (copyright Marcel Massini, Engine from a 365 GTC/4 in the vintage forum). The digits within the "**" are all we need, 3-5 digits depending on year and model.
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  5. rovexienus

    rovexienus Formula Junior
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    I agree with rustytractor. The spreadsheet as it is contains unprotected personal data.
     
  6. wrxmike

    wrxmike F1 Veteran
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    While the spreadsheet can be edited by anyone with the link, it's content is not subject to a Google search like the "cut and paste" list in the other thread which is already visible for ever and contains essentially the same "personal data"

    If privacy is a concern, the data is better off in the spreadsheet.

    M
     
  7. rovexienus

    rovexienus Formula Junior
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    A simple Google search on my name and city (as in the spreadsheet list), returns my age, profession, address etc... This is why I believe the list should be reduced in details and/or protected. The list in the other thread does allow to identify the persons eventually but it requires more effort to reach the objective.
     
  8. theobordeaux

    theobordeaux Formula Junior

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    #33 theobordeaux, Dec 18, 2015
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    David, It seems to me that something is missing here !
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  9. vecchio59

    vecchio59 Karting

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    Agree.
    I believe we are exposed in many ways, I recently received a letter (yes, the old paper mail) from a guy who searched the national registry and got to all my details... Name, address... And made an offer to buy my 365... And sent greetings on my birthday... so, our file is not my biggest concern ☺☺☺

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  10. vecchio59

    vecchio59 Karting

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    Still... is there any expert in adding some 'security' to our file ?
    I opened it and it looks like several Fchat members are removing personal info... of course, this is perfectly legitimate, but I wonder if we'd miss the opportunity to create a real community.

    What about adding the FChat nickname only ? We could get in touch via FChat if needed...
    Ideas welcome !

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  11. jacques

    jacques Formula Junior

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    Here's mine. Ser 1 1980 400i (1979 BUILD?). Originally blue/crema. Red/ now as when I bought in Dallas in 1997. New congnac leather interior. #28903 Florida.
     
  12. Ramboy

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    Yes with that serial number it would have most likely been built during 1979.
     
  13. simonc

    simonc Formula Junior

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    The list to the spreadsheet appears to be broken. I am getting a 404 error.
     
  14. vecchio59

    vecchio59 Karting

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    OUR SPREADSHEET CAN BE FOUND AT THE LINK BELOW:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13ROO5t0GVAg-c8w3A-UE4PSk4xtEy8gANjbuxbZ7LKY/edit#gid=0


    Have completed some maintenance/update today, added a few from "How many 365/400/400i/412 owners here?"

    The "Statistics" tab is now based on a total of 61 registered vehicles.

    If anybody needs help to update the file, please feel free to send me your details (model, VIN, Engine, Colors, Location) and I'll do that for you.
    My email is mvenzan@gmail.com

    Let me take the opportunity to wish you all a Peaceful New Year... 12 months, 365 days (+1 next year, a shame :-()

    Marco
     
  15. simonc

    simonc Formula Junior

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    21557 updated

    & wishing you all a great 2016.
     
  16. Ramboy

    Ramboy Formula Junior
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    Some interesting engine number data in the spreadsheet.

    Regarding 17919, the engine number 505 is too low for a 365 GT4 2+2, but could have originally belonged to a 365 GTC/4. For comparison, 16293, the 3rd prototype 365 GT4 2+2 has engine number 603 and 17939 has 896.

    Regarding 21781, I wonder if it had a brand new factory replacement engine at some point as it has engine number 521 and the last known carb 400, 28261, has engine number 510. An early 400 such as 21781 would originally have had an engine number around the 110-130 range.

    David
     
  17. kliko312

    kliko312 Karting

    May 21, 2008
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    Hi David,

    I'm asking myself the same question why my car (17919) has such a low engine number. The complete history is with the car and it doesn state an engine swap. Perhaps some is missing... Unfortunately the engine number is not stated in the warranty bookled, only the chassis number.

    The other question I have is regarding my other 365 (17539), it has engine code F101AC001 instead of 000 at the end. Anyone knows what the difference is between 000 and 001?

    Thanks and best regards,
    Toon
     
  18. hoverland

    hoverland Formula Junior

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    You may be right as I suspect engine #121 was original, but have no info from last two owners about engine change. Have not succeeded in revealing 21781's complete history yet.

    Harald / 21781
     
  19. Ramboy

    Ramboy Formula Junior
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    Hi Toon,
    I don't know the answer to your question regarding the engine numbering difference between F101AC001 and F101AC000, but looking in my database I have recorded all known RHD 365 GT4 2+2 engines as "...001" and a mixture of "..000" and "..001" for LHD. It is strange; as far as I know there were no changes made to the 365 GT4 2+2 engines during the production run.

    David
     
  20. Ramboy

    Ramboy Formula Junior
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    Added the full engine number of #80194.

    From what I can deduce, 412 engine numbers ran sequentially from 1 to about 415, and then switched to 5 digits, of which the first two indicate the production date (quarter?).
    So I think my engine F101E010*15699*
    was either produced Q4 1988 or Q1 1989 - signified by the "15" (the 5 digit numbering started with a "10" in 1987).
    Further additions to the spreadsheet would be helpful to understand this further.
     
  21. ulf rickard

    ulf rickard Formula Junior
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    #46 ulf rickard, Jan 8, 2016
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  22. vecchio59

    vecchio59 Karting

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    #47 vecchio59, Jan 12, 2016
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2016
  23. vecchio59

    vecchio59 Karting

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    Added 59361 and 52983 (39533 already there)...

    Tassie, I'm very sorry but I have lost your message... would you be so kind to re-send Year/LHD or RHD/Engine nbr for the VIN's listed below ?

    Also, is 27535 auto or manual ?

    You can send to mvenzan@gmail.com, thanks !

    Cheers, Marco

    21341 400 Manual
    22569 400 Manual
    27535 400i
    30681 400i Manual
    30719 400i Manual
    50027 400i Automatic
    61431 412 Manual
     
  24. vecchio59

    vecchio59 Karting

    Nov 25, 2011
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    Thank you Tassie, all your cars updated with the info you gave me !

    Statistics updated (Click on the Statistics tab), highlights below:
    - a total of 84 vehicles registered: majority (60%) is 400/400i (respectively 45 and 15 %), then n25% are 365 and the rest (15%) 412
    - 84 means approx 5% of total vehicles made between '72 and '89 we have abt 9% of the 400/412, 4% of the 365 and 2% of the 412
    - ca 40% of the registered vehicles are automatic, ca 50% LHD (for 20% we don't know, the rest is WHD :) )

    Please continue to send information, either on this forum or to my email (mvenzan@gmail.com)

    Have a great day, cheers
    Marco
     
  25. John Wetzig

    John Wetzig Rookie

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    Just added my engine number
     

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