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  1. Robert W

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    Wow. That looks like the most amazing set of cars at any event ever! We're all the events back then like this? 250GTOs, SWBs, Lussos, Barchetta, Breadvan, lots of 275s and Daytonas to name a few. I suppose those were the cars of the era!

    Marcel - the light green Lusso - was it owned by a lady who subsequently owned a RHD GTC4 that she had painted thistle green to match the Lusso? Do you have a picture of the (whole) Lusso?

    I'll post a picture of the GTC4 in his colour, as I saw it several times.

    To start with:
    206gt VJY144M red #358
    250 SWB alum ULY8F #2231 - shark nose???
    246 VEN440L #5428
    250SWB red GLK650N #2589
    Yellow 275GTB RHD interested to know which car this is!

    More to follow I'm sure!
     
  2. gt4me

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    Great photos.
     
  3. Robert W

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    #205 Robert W, Feb 24, 2016
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    166MM Barchetta KTY195P in red is #161

    Below is 365GTC4 #15553, which Barbara Campbell-Goulding owned for 21 years from 1975 to 1996, and had it repainted this thistle green colour to match a 250 Lusso that she previously owned, which I believe she raced.

    Marcel - is the light green 250 Lusso in one of the pictures above her car?

    Here is the 365GTC4 in May 1990 - first just parked in the street in London and then in a workshop two weeks later.

    This car has a wonderful history!
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  4. Marcel Massini

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    #206 Marcel Massini, Feb 24, 2016
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    The light green Lusso is 5521 GT and at the time was raced by Mike W. MacQuaker of London. It was later repainted dark green and went to Peter Waterman.
    The original color of 5521 GT was Amaranto 19379 Italver with Beige VM 3309 interior.

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  5. bertrand328

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    Can you please confirm #78597 as GTB ?

    Other source note as GTS : ZFFWA20Cxxx
     
  6. Robert W

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    I have a separate source that confirms F728MPB #78597 is a 328GTB [NOT a GTS].
     
  7. bertrand328

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    328GTS could by #62105 ?
     
  8. bertrand328

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    Ok Thanks
     
  9. Robert W

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    Thanks for this. Do you have any info showing Barbara Campbell-Goulding having owned 5521? By the time the photo above is taken (1976), she had the GTC/4 and no longer had the light green Lusso. Was it this car? {seems unlikely that there was another light green Lusso around at the time, but stranger things have happened}
     
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    #212 torquespeak, Feb 24, 2016
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    It wasn't 5521 GT. She owned 5685 GT, which was originally Blu Chiaro. This may well look more green in a period photograph.

    I've posted s/n 11695 below (a 1968 365 GT 2+2), which was - and still is - Blu Chiaro. The bottom photo is adjusted to show how this could easily appear green.

    -Ed

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  11. torquespeak

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    Working down through those images in posts #201 and #202 from Marcel, some are very well known, others less so (shout if you spot an error):

    166/195/212 sn 0040M - reg KTY195P
    250 GT SWB sn 2231 - reg ULY8F
    Dino 246 GTS sn 05428 - reg VEN440L
    500 Superfast sn 6661 SF - reg HCY700D
    250 GT SWB sn 2589 - reg GLK650N
    250 GT Lusso No.25 sn 5521
    250 GTO No.21 sn 3451
    275 GTB/C No.11 sn 09027
    250 GT Lusso No.22 sn 5377
    Dino 246 GT No.28 sn 01124
    Daytona No.17 sn 15371
    275 GTB4 No.9 sn 10345
    312 PB No.3 sn 0880
    Dino 206 GT No.5 sn 00358
    365 GT4 BB No.4 (just out of sight) sn 18145
    250 Breadvan No.18 sn 2819
    512S No.1 sn 1042
    Daytona No.14 sn 16425
    250 GT SWB No.24 sn 1539
    275 GTB No.12 sn 06521
    Daytona No.16 sn 16807
    Daytona No.15 sn 16883
    275 GTB/C No.10 sn 09051

    -Ed
     
  12. Wheels1

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    Great Colour photos, a few bobs worth of cars there.
    Thanks for posting them Marcel.
     
  13. Robert W

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    #215 Robert W, Feb 25, 2016
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    I'm not sure about this one. See the attached from a Gofrey Eaton book (with apologies and credit to him) clearly the same car, and surely C0161 is the wrong chassis number, as it should be an even chassis number? If it is ex-Briggs Cunningham, could it be 0060 when owned by Peter Agg, though was the car a berlinetta by then or still a barchetta?

    Do you have evidence of this car being 0040, the Mason-Styron barchetta?

    Ah!! 5685GT was blue with blue (not sure it was blu chiaro - I thought it was darker than that when it was blue), then I see it was light green then Dark Green. 5685GT was registered 6 HLA, same as the GTC4, which I'd forgotten. Sounds like this all ties up. Does anyone have a photo of 5685GT when it was light green?

    Many thanks
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    The 412 is #60017 but has anyone an idea about the green 400? (from post #196).
     
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    #217 jtremlett, Feb 25, 2016
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    Robert, I think you need to go back to the book. The text shown is clearly referring to two different cars but since you've cut off the rest of the page it isn't obvious what the other pictures show.

    Jonathan

    Edit: The Briggs Cunningham car is 016I which looks completely different and is, I think, in the picture below which you can only see the very top of in the crop above
     
  16. torquespeak

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    It was Blu Chiaro when new. Do you have evidence of an early repaint in light green?

    -Ed
     
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    As has often been done in the past, this chassis number is a bit of a mash-up of 0161 (212 Inter) and 016/I. Not sure where they got the 'Touring' name from, but I assume the photo under the caption is of 016/I.

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    The 'Collins' referenced by the caption is Derek Collins, the owner of 0040 before DMS.

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  19. Mark Shannon

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    Robert

    That is 330 GTS #09155.

    Mark

     
  20. Mark Shannon

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    #222 Mark Shannon, Feb 25, 2016
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    Mrs Campbell Golding (note spelling) just drove her cars into the ground until they died or blew up which was the case with both the Lusso, which got a 250 GTE cylinder block, and then the C/4 which ended up with a used carb 400 engine.

    About six months into her Lusso ownership Maranellos repainted it for her. Allegedly to match the colour of her favourite head scarf.

    I have only this photo of the Lusso in light green courtesy of an old FOC mag and then owner, John Braithwaite will own the Copyright.

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  22. Marcel Massini

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    #224 Marcel Massini, Feb 25, 2016
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    This is a color shot of Lusso 5521 GT at Thruxton 1976, when with MacQuaker.
    I also have a great black-white picture Copyright Ted Walker/Ferret Photographics from the same event and same car but prefer not to post that here.

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