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  1. Mark Shannon

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    Dear Robert

    If you have not already, get yourself a copy of 'Marque of a Legend' 15969 featured there.

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  2. Marcel Massini

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    Yes.

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  3. Mark Shannon

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    Andrew

    Wasn't that car gutted by fire twice ?

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  4. Robert W

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    #131 Robert W, Feb 10, 2016
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    Certainly this car has had an interesting life! The car was restored to mint condition in 1990 [first photo]. It was stored in Graypaul's workshop in Loughbrough for several months in 1993, then Andrew said it was fire damaged in 1997 [I think your date may be wrong here Andrew?]. Second photo is at LeMans in 1999 [41,000kms with an MHT number plate], where I was told there were ownership issues with it - it had been bought and paid for by a new owner, but the paperwork never materialised, so the owner was genuinely worried that it would be pinched back by the former owner. I'd guess it was fire damaged after that [hence Mark thinking it had been fire damaged twice]?
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  5. Mark Shannon

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    Dear Robert

    Reading my notes again, you are right, but the then owner of 55715 told me he crashed it very hard in the pouring rain, traveling to or from Le Mans, necessitating the rebuild you mention, and apparently it had a new chassis. Then it caught fire on a subsequent road test and burnt sufficiently for him to tell me it no longer existed as a car !

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  7. torquespeak

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    Recorded as an insurance write-off in May 2001; recorded as scrapped entirely in May 2005.

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  8. torquespeak

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    365 GT4 2+2 s/n 17989 - reg MRX103P (I have this as Marrone Colorado new, so I assume colour changed)
    365 GT4 BB s/n 17899 - reg XB18 (originally Nocciola?)
    308 GTS s/n 27999 - reg NOO5
    Testarossa, either s/n 58553 or 65947 - both apparently once on 715TMD (65947 spec definitely matches as we've just sold it, but I have 58553 as Rosso/Crema as well)
    308 GTS QV s/n 55309 - reg B23OVT

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  9. torquespeak

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    308 GTB s/n 20725 - reg PPG371R
    308 GT4 s/n 13014 - reg VNV308
    308 GT4 s/n 14718 - reg AOF557T

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  10. Marcel Massini

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    17989 was originally Marrone Colorado 2.443.221 with Blu VM 3282.
    17899 was originally Nocciola Metallizzato 106-M-27 with Beige VM 3218.

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  11. Marcel Massini

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    Any pix of the wreck?

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  12. PAUL500

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  13. Marcel Massini

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    This is MY photo. I took it on the 21st May 2003 in Maranello.
    It shows the remains of 53321 after the fire in February 2001 near Frankfurt, Germany. This car was completely rebuilt in Italy and now belongs to a French collector.
    The photo does not show 55715.

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  14. PAUL500

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    Thanks Marcel for clarification, found the photo on the net a few years ago with no link to the copyright owner, so good to know now :)

    Do you watermark your photos these days?
     
  15. Wheels1

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    #142 Wheels1, Feb 12, 2016
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    Not being around Ferrari's when I was young, I have to borrow most of my photos from the net.
    Here is an interesting one I found.
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  16. Marcel Massini

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    I don't.
    I am one of these naive dinosaurs who still believe in honest people who give proper credit.

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  17. Robert W

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    #144 Robert W, Feb 12, 2016
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    I have to admit that I like Testarossas, so here are a few pics of UK ones from over the years. Ed - you seem to have a 100% record on identifying the cars - if you can identify even one of these, it'd be impressive, as no one has been able to identify any of them...

    A few clues:
    B588OPG - once owned by Steve Davis the snooker player, here at Oulton Park in the 1990s
    C35EUW - here at Loxwoods 1990s
    C504LWG at Silverstone 1990s British Grand Prix
    C681EUL at Silverstone AMOC meeting 1990s
    VSC10 at a Ferrari Dealer near Egham 1990s
    C830OTW - one of the Hartleys (their photo) more recently
    5RBN - not my photo, in London more recently
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  18. Robert W

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    #145 Robert W, Feb 12, 2016
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    Hi Ed

    Tricky - I think 715TMD was on three Testarossas - 58553, 64541 and 65947.

    64541 was new to the Marquis of Bristol in prugna, in June 1986, and then was white I think, so the photo above is not that car!

    The photo above was taken by me in January 1989 in Cadogen Square in London and is of a single mirror/knock off wheels car. This could be either 58553 [August 1985 car] or 65947 [Sept 1986] as either could be single mirror cars.

    Just to confuse things more, the photo below was taken by me in January 1990 - 12 months later - this is also 715TMD in exactly the same spot (you an see the railings etc behind are the same - sorry, I thought it was the same car, so rather casually took a photo from the side). Now you have a twin mirror car with knock off wheels.

    You could speculate that the single mirror car is 58553, then the twin mirror is 65947, unless Mr.TMD had 58553 converted from single to twin mirror?

    Still, he owned a August 1985, June 1986 and Sept 1986 Testarossa all on the same number plate.

    If anyone has a photo of 715TMD in Prugna [Italian for "Prune"] or White (on 64541), I'd be very interested.
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  19. torquespeak

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    #146 torquespeak, Feb 12, 2016
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    This is Maurice Baring's 250 SWB, #3287GT. As per John's description on The Rolling Road site, the plate was transferred to other cars, including his 275 GTB (#08699, also red/black) as seen below.

    The image below is from a UK car magazine but I only own the trimmed excerpt not the original whole. Can anyone identify the magazine / issue number / publication date?

    I have no idea whether John's suggestion of Brands Hatch for the 250 SWB picture is correct. Could it be Thruxton or Silverstone as per Baring's own words below?

    The Dino he refers to was most probably #00518, an L-Series GT (and yes, it was red/black).

    -Ed

    [COPYRIGHT for the scan obviously belongs to whichever magazine it is from!]
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  20. torquespeak

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    I can help with three...

    Testarossa s/n 63537 - reg C35EUW (exported in the early 1990s I believe)
    Testarossa s/n 58863 - reg C830OTW (you may have photos of this car with reg 2KJH)
    Testarossa s/n 58005 - reg 5RBN (may be on records as reg C25SRF, C425 LFF or even LEA51N - yes, really!)

    -Ed
     
  21. torquespeak

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    Both of these were certainly single-mirror cars when new. Given the tally was already at three, I believe it's entirely possible that he owned a fourth Testarossa at some stage which was a twin-mirror single-bolt-wheel car. I doubt we'll ever know.

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  22. Marcel Massini

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    Kool pic of Baring's 08699. He seems to have kept it for more than 25 years.

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  23. portogts

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    Hi everyone

    Please continue posting photos like these !!

    It´s great to see them!!!

    :D :D :D :D :D
     

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