This is noted and I do understand what you are saying. I'm really trying to bow out of this thread at this point. My intentions are good and for a positive reason and I mentioned above that my use of the term "pathetic" wasn't the best choice... although as Bull Run stated, I do think it started a fire storm far bigger than what was a little over the top. Todd, I've actually already been hitting the pavement as well and your point about that side is correct although I just thought it was worth a shot of letting a few guys know what I was thinking by posing the question... and seeing if they might be interested in meeting each other OR pulling info together to help each other out. So far in OKC owners of a 360, 82' 308, 355, 89' Mondial T, and 550 (as well as my car) whom I've met at recent shows and just out running around are all interested in having at least some sort of resource and we all swapped info. 3 of them are now using the same Ferrari mechanic as me and were completely out in the dark on who to take there cars to for service. It made me realize that not everyone knows about Ferrari chat or gets online. The Mondial owner was at the recent Edmond car show and thanked me for talking to him cause he was discouraged and worried about servicing his car. I felt bad for him and it shouldn't have to be that way. It made me want to help. A lot of guys don't spend much time online or out and about and the more people we can tie together (even done discreetly or just via email), the more we can help each other out. It's exactly what the KC guys do: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=364038 and with great success. I just thought it's a great idea for those who might interested in Oklahoma / Oklahoma City who aren't already involved or want to be a part. You are right, we are all busy. Despite all my faults, I'm a very driven / passionate person. None of us would have a Ferrari if we weren't good at what we do to some point. Just like every other Ferrari owners, I'm extremely busy too. I just spent a month in Europe recording a new album and am leaving on a 25 city U.S. tour, but I can work from my computer and help local guys reach out to each other... help with get togethers or make a newsletter / database with mechanic info in the area, events going on, etc. I had already emailed the local Ferrari chapter President and never got a response. It was a little disappointing so I just thought I'd reach out and try to make a difference. It seems like Central Oklahoma, other than the occasional cars and coffee at Starbucks (which is every random make there is) is the only outlet for Ferrari guys around here. My thought was, there could be more... in even small things. How some guys responded was pretty hurtful and a little discouraging because I feel like a lot of guys, threw out some low blows ripping my income, how much I give to charity, or kind of guy I am, "that I don't know what it's like to own a Ferrari" etc... over really a one sentence post. I've apologized for upsetting anyone multiple times (or maybe not handling it or wording it the best with that sentence) and that's all I can do. I'm a good guy (or try really hard at it) , work extremely hard (just like all of you) and just like you, love the cars... I, like many of you, have owned some great cars. I grew up in car clubs as a kid with my family who restored a lot of amazing cars so I know it takes a lot of work. Some of us, even though we'd love to, probably can't drive our cars 2 hours to Grand Lake / Tulsa... especially the older cars that are more fickle and temperamental. Mine is in the shop getting a clutch and brake booster. I hope to have it back today. I never said I didn't think the guys up there weren't doing great things. I know guys are doing great things, like the show up there in August, etc... The more the better and I think it's great! I talked to Matt (M.Roberts) offline and everything and we are totally cool. Some times I feel like the internet, text messaging, etc can be easily taken out of context or get a little out of control when you are stuck behind a user name. I was only introducing the idea because as many have stated, there is a lack of presence of any core group (at least in Central OK), not just to get together and meet but even as an email news letter or specific way for OKC and surrounding areas to be active. I was merely volunteering to start the process and try for the sake of all of us, if you chose to be a part. I understand the reservations completely and didn't see a lot of harm in shooting me an email offline but I understand... and it's ok, and again, sorry if I somehow upset someone. I hope everyone has a great weekend.