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Oil leak developed from not being driven. Help identify.

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  1. Eric C

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    Well, I haven't driven the 355 since November and it had zero leaks. I looked under the car last night and saw a 2"x2" oil puddle under the car. It's towards the front of the passenger side rear wheel. I looked under and saw a big fitting sitting right there with a oil drip on it. Is that the fitting that goes to the bottom of the oil reservoir? It's not a banjo fitting, it's a earls type fittings. It was a lower oil line.

    Any ideas while I sit here at work wondering why I didn't take a picture?
     
  2. yelcab

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    Why didn't you take a picture?
     
  3. yelcab

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    So I just googled Earls fitting and sort of have an idea of what that is.

    In the vicinity of the oil reservoir, there is a big Earl's fitting at the bottom of the rear facing side of the tank that fits to a large oil line. If that fitting falls off, you get more than a 2 inch by 2 inch puddle. Although, if you have parked the car since Nov, then all the oil has drained back into the engine so maybe a small puddle is all you get.

    The engine facing side of the tank also has an oil line that has a Earls fitting, smaller than the other one. Same deal.

    Jack it up, crawl underneath, see what has fallen off, determine why, and fix it before you even turn the key.
     
  4. Eric C

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    Too dang cold to be laying on the ground taking pictures at night. :)

    The fitting hasn't fallen off, it's just seeping. I'm just curious why this happened while it was sitting. It has been unusually cold lately but that still doesn't explain it leaking all of the sudden. I'll snap a picture tonight, it's very accessible without jacking the car up. Might throw a wrench on it and give it a yank.

    Thanks for the reply!
     
  5. 2NA

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    Could be the fitting, give the nut a little turn (doesn't need to be super tight to seal). It could also be the hose where it connects to the hose-end. They tend to leak after 20 years.
     
  6. bobzdar

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    Oil hose or o-ring most likely. Check the o-rings first as they're $30 vs. $600.
     
  7. group77racing

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    If it the ball seat hose with the big nut, try backing it off a little before giving it the "yank".
     
  8. drbob101

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    #8 drbob101, Feb 25, 2015
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    If we are talking about the same fitting, mine drips as well. I think when they replaced my headers that oil fitting gets DC and when putting it back together there is a replaceable something in there that didn't get replaced.

    I am planning on DC that fitting when doing the oil change this year and replacing that washer. I have taken a large crescent wrench and wrenched on that fitting. It helped but didnt solve it completely.

    I am talking about the fitting in the circle on this parts explosion and although it doesnt show the gasket I am talking about if you look at the other end of that oil line pn 48 is the gasket that I have been told is also in this end of that line as well..

    I had started a thread on this awhile back. Ill see if I can find it if that is where your leak is coming from.
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  9. drbob101

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  10. Eric C

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    I'm pretty sure the one you circled is the one that's leaking on mine. I'll double check tonight when I get home. When I looked under the car last night, I could have sworn it was a AN fitting. I've never seen one with a gasket or washer.
     
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    I don't think we're not talking about the same fitting. My leak isn't on a fitting to the motor. Mine is literally right next to the passenger rear tire. I can't confirm yet, but I'm thinking it's the fitting that attaches to the bottom of the oil reservoir?
     
  13. yelcab

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    That is the fitting to the oil tank. Same oil line, opposite end. Dude, you need to drive it more.
     
  14. drbob101

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    Could be the other end of that line on the first parts thing i pasted . There is a gasket in there also. If it is that same fitting its a huge nut that required a large crescent wrench to capture.
     
  15. Eric C

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    Man, this weather makes it impossible! It's been snowing/icing every week now.
     
  16. Eric C

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    I'll check it out. I have some large AN wrenches (-22 and -24 etc) used for coolant fittings. I'll see if those fit.
     
  17. yelcab

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    24mm won't fit, 36m won't fit. You want to buy a $75 adjustable wrench with a jaw that will open to >2 inches. Then you have a chance, after you remove the wheel liner.
     
  18. Eric C

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    An wrenches are measured differently. My -24 AN wrench is a big SOB.
     
  19. GTSNJ

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    Dr Bob why don't you go back to classic coaches and have them figure out the leak. You paid good money to have headers installed, if they caused it why not, otherwise its probably a silly crush washer (better that than that expensive hose).

    My GTS is dry underneath and it was allegedly submerged deep in the ocean for years. My guess is that all the salt water really tightened up those seals like magic. Well, mine is a 95 so it has the c pillar quarter snorkel intakes for high water crossing. LOL.

    Eric just give it a tightening, loosen first and inspect the mating surfaces. Sometimes the end of hose barb can leak and make it seem like the fitting. UV dye is best for this.
     
  20. phrogs

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    There are no gaskets between those hoses and the unions.

    The unions have gaskets between them and where they attach to the pan or the oil tank.

    Yet if its leaking between the line and the union you could back it off and re tighten.

    You wouldn't believe how much machinery out there leaks oil when its not used.

    Winter blows!!


    I can post a photo of those gaskets if you want Let me know and go ahead and price one of them out you have two on the pan.
     
  21. drbob101

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    Exactly. I went to Lowes, bought the biggest adjustable they had. Is it still in my took box??????
     
  22. Eric C

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    Is it just a copper crush washer?
     
  23. phrogs

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    Nope Let me get one out and take a shot.

    Its the style with rubber gasket attached to the washer.
     
  24. drbob101

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    It's not a big deal. I chsnge my oil and for me drive up there and do all that time wise is a pia.

    It is not a crush washer as phrogs said. I haven't seen it personally but it's called a gasket,

    If you take it apart to inspect it you have to drain the oil,
     
  25. GTSNJ

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    Cool . I just dropped my oil but left the lines alone. I heard you can get an extra quart out by taking one of those lines.....
     

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