I would trade power for light weight and lower CG - But I'm digressing from the thread so will save it for another thread
What are thoughts on first secondary trade of 812 C, in another thread someone wrote $1.4m! That would seem unlikely.
As hard as it is to get this car, as much as even the best clients are refused both cars, I would very much like to see any client flipping this car within two years lose any special car future allocations. Ferrari has taken away dealerships for this abuse, it is absolutely appropriate they take away the flipper’s future purchasing opportunity. I mention this here because speculation on the value of the car just reflects a lack of actual desire to drive the car and passion for the car and loyalty to the brand. Why would this type of client get the allocation?!
That type of client should not, but there will likely be flippers just like there were for the F12 Tdf. Speculation on value is fun and doesn’t mean any lack of loyalty to the brand. I fully intend to drive my car until the wheels fall off.
Understood. The Front(mid!) engine cars have never been about weight savings! Most Ferrarista would highly value a light mid engine screaming car!
Maybe future allocation of Special/Limited Edition cars should be based on how many miles you actually put on your Ferrari(s) and not the number you have This would start rewarding the driving enthusiasts!
Totally agree. Was originally told I was on the bubble but in the end I wasn’t offered the car(s). If I was, it would have been a keeper and I would have used it. Fear that most will be garage queens and some flipped. Have 4K on my GTS already (w 3k on the Roma) and will drive both often. Going to do more w the corsa program because I want to but will be interesting to see if that helps top it.
Being involved with racing, like Ferrari Challenge is a huge help if you are looking to get allocated cars and of course huge fun (just not cheap ..).
I wonder when the first 812 C will trade. Am assuming coupes will be made first. If average msrp for coupe in the US is around $700k-$750k at what price will the first one trade? Any guesses?
Personally, I think that the attribution should be made not according to the number of cars acquired, but the annual mileage driven with the model or the base rests. You do 10,000 kms per year with an 812, therefore we offer you a Competizione. This would make the most sense, considering that a Ferrari takes on its full dimension on the road, behind the wheel.
I can only imagine a bunch of 812's circling like mad around a track " 9980... 9990... 10 000 !!!!!" I think the passion you share on social media , events, or elsewhere is something Ferrari should take into consideration We have fabulous people here on Fchat for exemple , who take time to make some great write-up about their new Ferrari cars, answer questions, post beautiful pics , write stories like @Traveller who shared his fabulous TM or F40 restauration experiences with us (I can think about many other members who posted all kind of great stuff ) . Those people desserve more than people who just compulsively buy every new Ferrari like peanuts
I think if you are concerned about resale value of your not yet made 812C maybe better off not buying it cause plenty of money has been made in the last 6 months that this thread has been running in other places like the market ...to me buy a car cause you want it ......Imho........
I don’t see anyone here who seems concerned in the slightest. It’s fun to speculate about values. This is a value thread.
I'm hearing/seeing +300-400K for the contract for the coupe. +500k for an Aperta. Typical mock up's before launch on a limited after which they will drop 100-200k after launch only to go up after. Some high profile international car dealers (hypercars) mentioned they see the 812C easy become a 1million car.
Friend was given a very interesting offer of 1.5 mil CDN for his coupe. As spec’ed his car looks to be around 850 k. Not enough for him to consider losing out on future speciality cars from Ferrari. It was taken him many years to get to this point and guessing 6-7 million in purchases. For 500 to 600 k profit why would someone risk their relationship with Ferrari?
In my opinion it really depends on the spec. A rosso corsa with black interior car will be less desirable than a special blue, grey or green car for instance. Same with 599 GTO and F12 TDF - the more special specifications always traded higher than the boring launch spec variants. I see the coupe selling at 950'000 to 1'100'000 Euro. The aparta around 1'200'000 to 1'400'000 Euro. The cheapest TDF online in Germany is listed at 900'000 Euro. The base price was approx 390'000 Euro excluding options. This just shows that even five years later is very expensive. Although the Competizione is less limited 999 vs. 799 (TDF) it will follow a similar appreciation. If in fact the Comp is the true last 6.5L N/A V12 it will trade at an even higher multiple!
Oh absolutely. that 500K 'profit' is def not worth it. It's more a personal preference to 'now' that your 'investment' didn't all go down the drain as with limited's from other brands....! Selling the 812C shortly after launch would be a crazy thing to do given the importance of the NA V12... Than again I see some many GTS's on sale in Europe right now...... straight up stupid!
What a shame that people would not fully enjoy the beauty and performance of the 812 GTS. It’s practically 95% what the 812 C Aperta is With the convenience of the operating electronic hardtop roof.
Roof mechanism aside, I'm absolutely convinced those two are going to be two completely different driving experiences, many people who owned the regular and the hardcore limited version of several ferrari cars regulary stated how radically different they are. I haven't driven those but I'm sure that they are not 95% similar