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No Ferraris @ Long Beach IMSA?

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  1. David Lind

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    I just saw the entry list, yet there are no Ferraris entered in the IMSA race @ Long Beach. o_O This is a huge market for Ferrari, so what gives? Seems like the factory could kick in some money for an entry from Risi or someone else, doesn't it? Just wondering ...
     
  2. Devilsolsi

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    Risi is the only Ferrari in GTLM and GTD isn't racing in Long Beach. There are a few 488s in GTD normally. It is a good thing GTD isn't there this year as they made the race an absolute cluster**** last year!

    Risi has only committed to a few events this year.
     
  3. David Lind

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    Still, it's strange for any racing car manufacturer with an eligible car already competing to miss a marketing bonanza like the LBGP. All of the other heavyweights will be on the track.
     
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    Ferrari already has waiting lists for all their current models, so who needs a "marketing bonanza"? They'd probably be better off running Maseratis!
     
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  6. David Lind

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    Gator, your logic may be sound, but if it is true then why run IMSA at all?
     
  7. Nuvolari

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    Risi (not Ferrari) runs IMSA as a privateer with a Ferrari. The program does get some technical assistance from Ferrari but it is primarily a privately funded effort and they choose whatever events they want to run at. Reality is that Ferrari could care less for the 'marketing bonanza' and I don't blame them either as their product has no problems selling to capacity.
     
  8. GuyIncognito

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    I think Risi is NAEC only this year.
     
  9. Gatorrari

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    I think it's just a bit of "hey, don't forget about us", plus the fact that Ferrari's reputation is as a company that races. If they were really serious they would have a full factory team like their competitors.
     
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    On a slightly different note, I would love to see Aston Martin bring it's GTE car to GTLM.
     
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  12. [QUOTE="David Lind, post: 145923811, member: 73728 miss a marketing bonanza like the LBGP. [/QUOTE]

    LBGT, marketing bonanza??? No mas. ;)

    The rest are in for the long haul (full season). 'Already budgeted.
     
  13. David Lind

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    Doesn't the Ferrari factory put up some support - financial or otherwise - toward Ferrari Challenge events? If so, what's the incentive there? Seems like kind of a high probability a Ferrari will win ... ;)
     
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    Ferrari Challenge is a totally different beast. FC is a one make championship controlled by the factory and its network of dealers. The concept is for wealthy owners to have the opportunity to race a Ferrari and a Challenge car and race program becomes just another product to sell to a customer. That is the incentive and they do very well at it.
     
  15. Gatorrari

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    Ferrari Challenge and Corse Clienti are fully funded by the company. At present, GT racing is not, although the successes of the GT cars are still trumpeted in the annual yearbooks!
     
  16. Nuvolari

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    I do not believe it is accurate to refer to Ferrari Challenge and Corse Clienti as funded by the company. Both of those initiatives are very much products/services that are for sale by the company with an aim of making a direct profit from them. The 'racers/drivers' pay to be there and it is that money that finances the whole deal.

    A factory funded race program is just that. The factory will finance either an internal program or outsource a specialist race team and everyone on that program is an employee of it and not paying to be there. The aim of such a program is to generate publicity, develop technologies, increase brand awareness, or a combination of these and other factors. The initiators may partially or fully (almost never fully) offset the running costs of such a program by taking on a series of commercial sponsors but in the end it is them that are responsible for making sure the bills are paid. Outside of F1 Ferrari has not had anything like this for a very very long time.
     
  17. Gatorrari

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    Probably since the 1973 World Championship for Makes....
     
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  18. David Lind

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    ... or, to a lesser extent, the 1994 or 5 competition debut of of the Ferrari 333 SP.
     
  19. Hmmmmm... I gotta go with Gator on this one. I still think the PB was it as the 333 was Moretti's doing and they were all customer cars, no? (let alone the vast majority being Dallaras, I don't consider the licensed built "962"s real Porsches either...)
     
  20. the_stig

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    You do understand that the IMSA GTD class that normally has the Spirit of Race and Scuderia Corsa entries isn't invited to Long Beach, right?
     
  21. Eeeaaasssyyy big boy. Methinks he's referring to GTLM. ;)
     
  22. the_stig

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    If that's the case then he's also missing the point that Risi is a privateer, has already blown the budget by replacing a chassis not too long ago, spends 60% of the budget for the season at the first 2 events, and receives no financial backing from Ferrari - except, perhaps, the occasional "sponsorship" from Ferrari financial services some years back.
    As for any WEC entrants you were not going to see them coming over for the shortest race of the season and an event known for eating cars.
     
  23. the_stig

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    PS: forgot to mention that the ELMS teams are at Le Castelet this weekend as another factor in there being no Ferrari involvement at Long Beach.
     
  24. DL wasn't missing that point. Therefore the original post (#1):

    All doesn't matter to me in the end. My local FOX affiliate ran infomercials instead anywho. Ah...the dollar talks, the race walks.... :(
     
  25. David Lind

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    Yes, Stig, I am aware of the two different GT classes. I go to the 24 Hrs & the 24 Hr vintage races every year, among others, so I do know of the various divisions. And I also know Risi is a privateer, but their absence just underscores my original question. If Ferrari had given them some support, maybe there would have been a Ferrari at Long Beach. And hasn't southern California been their single biggest market over the last 30 years?
     

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