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Nico Rosberg and his father/manager

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  1. smart_alek

    smart_alek Formula Junior

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    All of this talk about Lewis Hamilton and his attention seeking father, got me thinking about his good buddy and contemporary, Nico. Nico's father is also his manager, but we he is rarely seen or heard. Since he is a former f1 racer, he does give his opinions on current events though. Also, when Nico makes a mistake, he is always someone who is honest about it, at one point he seemed way too hard on himself. Hamilton, on the other hand, and do no wrong in his own mind.
    Is this a case of experience with being around F1? Everything must be so new and novel to Hamilton Jr and Sr, the glamour, the excitement, the celebrity. Nico just seems to want to race and improve his car.
     
  2. maxorido

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    Yeah, the difference is that Keke seems to keep his distance. Hamilton Sr. on the other hand, seems to immerse himself into everything, and that may or may not be a good thing. It all depends on how Lewis feels about it.
     
  3. tactical

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    My take on this is that Lewis and his dad are and were always going to attract the medias attention being the first black driver and manager in F1. Had they been white then they would just have dare i say blended into the back ground. Maybe Nicos dad does immerse him self in every thing that his son does, i would. But we never hear about it because the media courts the hamiltons more.
    The same could be said when F1 gets its very first female driver, especially if she has her mom as here manager. Imagine the stories and hate that would develop due to the over exposure by the media.
     
  4. maxorido

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    Actually in an interview, Keke clearly said that he tries to stay out of his son's business, because Nico wouldn't listen to him anyways.
     
  5. tactical

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    Fair point, but the rest of what i said makes sense and still stands.
    Although on reflection as a farther manager, i just cant see how he can stay out of his sons business being that any one who wants to talk business with Nico has to go through his manager/farther first.
     
  6. Modeler

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    Nothing to do with his skin colour.
    Am quite sure its just latest great hope for a british champ.
    Only difference is this one started in a car capeable of winning, like all Ferraris are.
    Keke wouldn't let his son be set up for failure as Hamilton has been, during his tyro seasons

    The whole fleet street next Stirling Moss ride was completely predictable. Ask Jenson Button.
    Only doubt was how he'd handle it.
    Not that well, when you consider he's had the std PR image control training common to all F1 hopefuls..
     
  7. gsjohnson

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    It's very common in Nascar that Fathers/Mothers/Wives/Relatives are extensively involved in the driver's careers. Approximately 35% of the driver's spotters are their Fathers. Several drivers also have their Father as their manager. Dale Jr's manager is his sister. And we know what Dale Sr's wife Teresa does/owns. Of course on the other end of the spectrum, it was Jeremy Mayfield's wife who couldn't keep her yap shut and was partly responsible for Mayfield not having a ride. She was a wife who was over involved and expressed her opinion one too many times. No Nascar owner wants to deal with her.
     
  8. tactical

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    First of all You forget to say thats just your opinion. No one really knows, but i think my camp may be closer to the truth.
    Secondly, how do you know that about Keke? Again thats your opinion.
     
  9. william

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    According to an article published in the latest MotorSport, Keke Rosberg is not his son's manager anymore.
    Nico has a new manager since last year.
    Keke goes on explaining that he is very much 'hands-off' of his son's career now.
     
  10. Far Out

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    Keke actually is on German TV before and after the races and co-comments various racing scenes, he talks about the good moves and the mistakes of his son like he was just one of the other drivers. Very nice and down-to-earth.
     
  11. LightGuy

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    At the start of Nico's F1 career, Keke was frequently seen.
    Probably helping to settle and reassure his son as Keke has "been there, done that".
    LH's dad hasnt. He probably is soaking up the experience himself as much as "helping" his son.
    Can you blame him ? I'd be all over that as well.
    LH's dad needs to separate himself a bit and find a past F1 champ to give concrete advice now, not speculation. IMO.
     
  12. Remy Zero

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    Keke is much more experienced than Hammi sr. don't forget, he was managing Mika's career ;)
     
  13. Ferranki

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    Wasn't there a reference during the last Fox/Speed broadcast to the fact that Piquet Sr hasn't helped his son's career with his presence? My impression was that he (Sr) had been restricted in some manner in France and by coincidence, it was Nelsinho's best result.
    Then again, I could be totally wrong and talking out of my butt. :)
     
  14. Gilles27

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    Probably boils down to a difference of styles. Keke knows the game of F1, but that also affects how people approach him. He's the dad/manager who cut his own teeth in the sport, won races and a driver's championship. Very few people in the paddock could ever take the "Yeah, what do you know?" argument to him. I think what you see with the Hamiltons is a "never quit, never say die" attitude that modern sport requires if you want to reach the top and succeed. Keke's era of racing was one where you did your speaking on the track, and I firmly believe those drivers were men compared to today's boys. But modern drivers need to also be spokespeople, with cameras and microphones constantly in their faces. While I'm naturally leery of the father/manager, you'll rarely find someone you can trust more than family. Especially in a sport like F1.
     
  15. LightGuy

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    While I argree in most respects, hiring someone who does this for a living will pay off more than someone emotionally involved learning the trade as they go along. A single mistake could cost millions. Or worse yet an opportunity.
     
  16. smart_alek

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    IRL has some interesting situations brewing as well.
    Graham Rahal is in a competing team to his father's team, and Marco Andretti races for his dad, and get's double flak from his dad if he screws up.
     
  17. Gilles27

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    You're right--depends on dad's background I guess. I don't know what Hamilton Sr. did before this. But I think it's safe to say the days of Gerhard Berger negotiating his own contracts and managing himself are long gone!
     
  18. ProCoach

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    Yeah. Look at Nico's performance versus another prominent father/son duo, Nelsino...

    Keke is cool.
     
  19. ProCoach

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    +1000!

    I'm amazed the father can't see that and step away himself. But it's always a competition, him and Keke, him and Michael, him and Bobby... He's losing and doesn't know how to quit.

    These patterns develop in the under-formulas. They're clear well before F1.
     

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