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  1. Ferris Bueller

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    Full dip with Glasurit is big money but worth every penny. This 355 should look phenomenal when done.
    Nice work Dan.
     
  2. BRADAN

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    Thank you. Allot of people get scared off by the cost of Glasurit products but don't really factor in the labor savings. Its really an amazing product and company to work with.
     
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  4. Ferris Bueller

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    Yep. Next time you have a full quart of sealer/surfacer of any brand other then Glasurit and a full quart of Glasurit, weigh them and I bet the quart of Glasurit 10-20% heavier. More pigments and solids, better coverage and no shrinking. Saves time and money in the long run. Obviously I don't have to tell you this Dan. You use it everyday .
     
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    I wish they could match shades better
     
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    When I had the bumpers and door scoop painted from my other red 355 I was going nuts with this. Several spray outs - it's very difficult. I taped the spray out on the car and was driving myself nuts. It looked different from all angles. Very hard to do.


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  7. BRADAN

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    #34 BRADAN, May 9, 2018
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    A big problem we run into on older cars is prior paint repair work and detailing. You're trying to match a panel that has a repair panel next to it on the front with a blend and then an original panel on the rear. For example painting a F355 rocker. Its common to find a car thats had it's nose repainted so the front of the rocker has to match aftermarket paint, the rear 1/4 panel is original so the rear of the panel is a different color.

    The coverage is excellent compared to other products, I'm excited to try there water based paint for newer cars.
     
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    Makes sense but on my car in that photo, we were matching against original paint (not a repaired area at all).
     
  9. BRADAN

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    It just fades out from UV exposure, single stage more so then base coat. Very tough to get correct as you mentioned.
     
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    Ferrari F355 magnesium wheels refinished. The surface was wiped with BASF 2000 metal prep wipes. Its a pre saturated wipe for aluminum and magnesium. It applies a phosphate coating to enhance adhesion and corrosion resistance.

    Followed by Glasurit 801-703 zinc chromite primer sprayed with a Sata 100 B F HVLP primer gun. Glasurit 801 has excellent corrosion protection, outstanding adhesion, and good solvent resistance. We love it.
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  11. ClydeM

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    Now I know where I can take both my 308 & 355 rims :)
     
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  12. BRADAN

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    We're often asked what paint guns we use to achieve our concours winning paint jobs. We use Sanitaria ("Sata") spray guns which are manufactured in Germany for all sprayable finishes. Originally, it came from the recommendation of our paint supplier Glasurit; since most of their finishes are designed to be sprayed with specific Sata guns. After trying out a few different brands the difference was tremendous. In today's modern body shop we must always work to a level of perfection while being mindful of our environmental impact. HLVP paint guns and RP are the only legal paint guns to use in a body shop. HVLP stands for High-Volume/Low-Pressure, and spray guns with this type of material transfer give you better, more consistent coverage than conventional spray guns, with minimal overspray. Rp is a Sata specific acronym for “Reduced Pressure” which is rated at a minimum of 65% transfer efficiency. The origins of Sanitaria go back to the firm Gretsch & Cie. GmbH in Stuttgart-Feuerbach, which was established in 1863 by Friedrich Carl Bauer and now operates in Kitzingen, under the name of Gretsch-Unitas. In 1914 “Sata” was registered as a trademark. In 2007 Sata celebrated a century in business. We're proud to use their spray guns in our paint department and will continue to work with them with advanced materials in years to come.

    For base coat finishes we use the Sata Jet 5000 HVLP Digital. This was designed by Porsche Design Studio in collaboration with Sata to produce a gun thats functional, aesthetically pleasing and comfortable for the operator to use. Painters are able to fine tune the spray fan control, material flow control, as well as the air micrometer. When spraying clear coat we switch to a Satajet 5000 RP which is similar but sprays slower using lower air consumption which is better for us when spraying clear coat.

    When spraying primer we use a Satajet 100 B F HVLP gun. Most body shops use cheap guns and don't really care about the primer stages, but the paint jobs base is really what determines the longevity and quality of the overall paint job. When spraying with a HVLP primer gun it's not only environmentally friendly, but also saves a lot of material which reduces required sanding effort. The air micrometer with graduations allow us to adjust the air atomisation. For polyester coatings normally sprayed over Fiberglass to do Gel coat repairs we us the Satajet 100 BF P polyester gun. To truly get a perfect finish, each stage from bare metal - to a finished surface must be fine tuned and analyzed for perfection. Otherwise, it will tumble from one weak link in the chain.
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    Sata are great! all we use here as well (RP) :) Agree 100% - We also use SATA for primer with just a large fluid tip ;)
     
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    The tool is important, but don't sell your shooter short. He's very good.
     
  17. BRADAN

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    By far the best. Check out the Minijet 4400 B HVLP for small parts. Were going to try it out tonight on a Testarossa door, the fins are pain to spray.
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    Good point were very lucky to have a skilled staff. Our painter really was the cherry on top after the equipment change.
     
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    Those are the guns we use ;)
     
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    At Bradan, we exclusively use Glasurit paint in our body shop. We are factory trained and certified, giving customers Galsurit's lifetime finish warranty. Our main paint system is Glasurit's 55 line solvent paint, which was used by most exotic vehicle manufacturers for decades. Glasurit is considered the best paint manufacturer in the world and has been in business since 1888. Their paint systems and processes which we strictly follow, are approved for refinishing by all leading vehicle manufacturers worldwide. They have the world's largest color data base, going back to the very first production cars. This allows us to convert absolute laquare colors into modern materials for a perfect paint match.

    We flew to Münster, Germany to visit the Glasurit/BASF factory in person, touring their center of production, research/developmant and marketing. It's a mini-city inside the gates, filled with scientists passionate about manufacturing the world's best refinishing products.

    Glasurit's history began in 1888 with Max Winkelmann founding a lacquers and paints company in Hamburg, Germany. The first paint was marketed under the name “Crystal White”. It was originally used for ocean liners and quickly expanded to customers in major shipyards and the German Kaiser. After being in business for 10 years, Mr. Wikelmann was making so many different products, he wanted to consolidate it under one brand name. The chosen name “Glasurit” was first trade registered over 100 years ago. The name “Glasur” means glaze or enamel, It reflects the enamel like glaze. In 1925 the parrot is registered as a protected trademark. The parrot's colors are the primary colors found in mixing paint.

    In 1964, Glasurit lead the market with the introduction of the first metallic base coat paint for the automotive market. Then followed in 1992 with one of the first waterborne basecoat systems on the market. In 2018 Glasurit Celebrates 130 years in business - a true testament of a market leader.
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