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New Maserati 470-500HP!

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  1. maranello71

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    I just heard the rumor that Maserati has given the go-ahead to a re-bored version of its 4.2l V8. The new 4.7l will have 500HP and massive torque. It should find its way into the QP and (hopefully) in a new generation of Coupe and Spyder. Things are moving on, hopefully... does anyone have more detailed info?
     
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    i think we have many sources that confirms a 4.7L V8, but not the 500hp figure. italiaspeed just posted that the 4.7L V8 will be in the Alfa Romeo 8C, as well as the QP. previous rumors say the 4.7L will be mated to a new auto tranny, while the 4.2L is mated to the duoselect unchanged.
     
  3. tx246

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    i know the 4.7 liter engine is real, but was not told of any performance figures. the prototype was "around" modena in february.
     
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    Seems feasible given the 4.3L makes close to 500 hp. Although hopefully it won't include all the same expensive hardware. I'd just like to see the new coupe...
     
  5. maranello71

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    I heard 500HP and over 500Nm of torque. This should put the BMW M5's V10 in its sights. 500HP today is the "minimum requirement" for a sports sedan or a luxury coupe, and fortunately Maserati realised it. Maseratis are not lightweights, therefore they need all the power they can get.

    The new spyder will have a metal retractable roof similar to the Merc SL. The coupe will be a comfortable 4-seater. Probably they will use the QP platform and some body panels to save money.

    The QP will get the 4.7 soon, together with the long-awaited full-auto gearbox (for lazy Americans :) ).

    Honestly, this is the way forward. A sexy, modern and stylish Maserati coupe with 500HP will KILL any competitor - the mass-produced M6, the truck-heavy Bentley, the "grandad"-style Mercedes SL... and it will even put up a good fight against the Porsche 911 Turbo. Let's hope for the best...
     
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    I was told last month, the Coupe/Spyder replacement will be an SL-type automobile, no longer will we have the choice of a two-seat Spyder and a four-seat Coupe.
     
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    If the Italiaspeed article is to be believed they mention an engine that's easier to maintain and cheaper to build. How can that possibly be a bored version of the current motor?

    I have some ugly thoughts about what it might mean but I hope it's just an Italian non-Ferrari less expensive motor.

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    i honestly wonder about the 500hp 550nm figure. as a reference the 4.3 in the F430 makes 490hp and 465nm. hard to imagine ferrai will let maserati have the ones up. certainly 500hp+ is the benchmark now for sports sedan.

    as far as full auto, it has nothing to do with laziness. on the Duoselect you can be lazy but the shifts are just terrible automatically. the hardest working QP drivers are already shifting with their fingers.

    going back on topic, i am guessing the 4.7L V8 and the 8C chassis will find its way in various iterations: Ferrari Dino, Maserati Coupe/Spyder, and Alfa Romeo 8C. and the 4.7L V8 will also find its way to the auto QP.
     
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    :) ok...forget what I said yesterday. I'm hearing now that the Coupe replacement will be based on the QP/612 chassis (this may not be new news to most of you), following loosely on the theme of the 612, a large, comfortable GT automobile. It sounds like Maserati intends to put the Bentley CGT squarely in it's sight. The Spyder will be replaced as well but not as early as the Coupe.
     
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    I think the idea of going after the BCGT makes sense. Clearly there's a market there, and the Mercedes CL isn't viable.
    Do you think it will be aluminum like the 612 - or just use the transaxle and rear weight bias like the QP/612?
     
  12. maranello71

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    You know what? the 612 Scaglietti will soon get the new V12 of the 599GTB (it doesn't make business sense to keep two totally different V12s in production).

    This means that the "big" Ferraris will be so far ahead with horsepower (>600) that Maserati will finally be free to find its space in the 500HP class, without "disturbing" its big brother from Maranello. (The F430 does not really compete in the same class, so int won't matter if a Maserati has more power since it will always be heavier and not so track-focused).

    I'm just surprised that the new coupe will be a 2-seater... that doesn't make any sense, having 4 seats is one of the key selling points of a proper GT.
     
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    it's great that they are elevating the ceiling. if the 612 is the ultimate V12 from maranello then the Maserati (QP) Coupe could take the V8 well. honestly, the QP itself is styled as four door coupe anyways. converting it to shortened 2 door coupe would be straightforward. i have heard that this will be a 2+2 instead of a 2 seater.

    perhaps there will be a less expensive coupe/spyder that could be the 2 seater you mentioned, and there was rumor that it will be cheaper and even has V6's...
     
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    Yes, the problem is that originally some bean-counters suggested to save money by developing a new "cheap" Maserati based on the Alfa Brera platform and on a modified Alfa-GM V6. Fortunately it seems this absurd idea has been definitely canned.

    What I heard is that a "small" Maserati will come, but it will have a new platform (possibly a shortened QP platform or a new one shared with future Alfas). The platform will be designed from the start for a proper RWD configuration, unlike the FWD Brera. They probably realised it would cost just as much to modify the Brera platform to RWD and longitudinal engine, that they decided to design a new one outright.

    The V6... nobody at Maserati could tell me where it will come frome, if at all. For sure it won't be an Alfa-GM mongrel. We have to wait and see. For me, they should resurrect the excellent biturbo V6, which had achieved an excellent level of power, torque and refinement (as well as durability) in its last iterations (circa 1999-2000). Meanwhile, I'm looking forward to the new 500HP V8!
     
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    the coupe that was based on a shorted QP platform had been rumored and prototype spotted way before the alfa connections and brera production annoucement. this was initally the Coupe/Spyder replacement which was rumored now to be the Ferrari Dino.

    the QP Coupe rumored is not this car. it is more like a rebodied QP into a coupe.
     
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    I think it's coming back. Someone inside the company told me the new coupe will be like a "2-door QP" with a 500HP 4.7l V8.
     
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    i know a new coupe will eventually emerge, but i doubt that this mule will be the basis. they let me take extensive photos of it. if it wa sthe true new car, they wouldn't have left it out in plain sight, much less let us mess with it.
     

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