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New Ferrari Paint Quality from Factory

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  1. Andy348

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    Interesting video from AMMO NYC on a new 296GTB. Looks like the car was delivered with a huge number of imperfections, including but not limited to:

    Defects in the paint (bubbles or dirt under the clear coat)
    Orange peel
    Overspray on CF pieces
    Scratches, swirl marks, sanding marks on black finish
    Wet sanding without any finishing, leaving paint dull

    I know there have been threads in the past regarding the quality of paint and how it could be improved... but this seems a bit excessive. Is the paint quality going in the wrong direction?

    Anyone have first-hand experience, good or bad, to share?
     
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  2. JCR

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    It is hard to get the paint robots "spot on". Misadjusted one way is orange peel the other way leads to paint runs. The former is preferable to the latter in production. Ferrari should be doing better for what they charge.
     
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    GLWT.
     
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  4. Texas Forever

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    The paint on my Stradale was so bad there were bare spots of nothing but undercoat. One track day cost me $1,000 to get the front bumper resprayed. I didn't care.
     
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    If its any comfort its way better than it used to be. Ferrari is the Italian word for bad paint.

    We used to get cars that looked like they were painted with mops and rollers. In the late 70's and early 80's the paint literally flaked off and had big discoloration splotches while still under the 1 year warranty. Paint work was a huge warranty expense.

    In the late 80s and early 90s orange peel was so bad on some cars you could set a ball bearing in a depression on the paint and it didn't roll away.
     
  6. omercan

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    ıt's the robots' fault
    Dio benedica la Ferrari, amen
     
  7. rossodino

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    Does anyone know if the cars painted by Zanasi are done by robots or people.
     
  8. Rifledriver

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    I have to believe they are by hand.
     
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  9. BJK

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    It doesn't matter whose 'fault' a bad paint job is.
    What matters is why was the car allowed out of the factory before being corrected. ;)
    Quality Control is lacking to say the least. :rolleyes:
     
  10. Rifledriver

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    Been lacking for 50 years. Why complain now?

    Its allowed out because they don't care. If people quit buying the cars, maybe, just maybe they'd care.
     
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    They've been putting buttons that go sticky in their cars for 30 years. If they cared, that would have been fixed in 1995.
     
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    ALL of those defects are quite common with every new car brand... I've done many new car preps, corrections and coating and they all need this kind of attention.. Especially Aston Martin in my experience.... the only thing I hadn't seen was the wet sanded area on inside of door that wasn't polished -- that one was kind of funny actually.
     
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    I always joke that my 488 had a really nice black paint job with subtle gold metallic flake in it.. even though Nero doesn't have gold flake in it...

    Ray
     
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    That car is not a standard colour done within the factory. It is an option , probably 30k plus . This makes me rethink any 3/4 layer on my current 296 build . What is the point if the quality is no better than the factory robots ?
     
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    The quality control has been getting worse recently ( Its not just the paint thats the problem). Nothing will change until the customers in mass numbers start rejecting cars until they are perfect.

    Unfortunately customers that are not "special" that kick up a fuss have the threat of being blackballed by the factory / dealers.
     
  16. Texas Forever

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    Spot on. As long as Ferrari customers keep putting up with masochist ********, nothing will change.
     
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    I just had my f8s done in blue elettricco thinking I had a good chance paint would look good due to such a significant upcharge. I was totally wrong and not happy with it.
     
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    I've always said, if you want perfection buy a Tercel.
     
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    Enzo’s original thought process of, I build engines, the car around it is just a necessity and I don’t give a sh*t about the cosmetics or if the panels line up still seems to be their mindset.


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    Bingo! I distinctly remember a client buying a 355 under the condition the dealer wet sand and polish the paint since the orange peel was so bad. Most talked about it then but everyone let it slide.

    This is nothing new but I suppose anything Ferrari bashing gets the Tube views.
     
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    Not sure that would have turned out well. It is two part paint system.....paint and clear coat. Sand deep enough and you cut through the clear coat......then orange peel is the least of your worries. Ferrari paint has never been great. If the base coat has peel.....the clear coat will magnify it. That's why show car paint work flat sands the base coat before they shoot clear.
     
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    Which will never happen, hence the perpetual attitude of not caring on Ferrari's part
     
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    If you want perfect fit and finish Ferrari is the wrong brand. Its that easy.
     
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    Base coats never or rarely have orange peel to any level that’s significant— it’s 95% the clear coat that causes it… remember, it’s about refraction of light and the clear is the one on top so it’s the one that will determine the gloss and depth and quality… so yes, you must wet sand to minimize or remove and of course, you do it properly and gradually as to not ever get near ‘going through it’-


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    You don't buy a Ferrari for the paint, you buy a Ferrari because it is a Ferrari. Besides, not all Ferraris leave the factory like this, stop making assumptions.
     
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