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New Ferrari "Manual Transmission"...

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  1. Doc_Dent

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    With "Porsche" offering Manual Transmission for GT3,
    BMW giving the "MT" option for M4 as well.
    I was wondering if Ferrari would do the same by giving the option on one of it's models?
    It doesn't have to be a V12 flagship or a high performance one, at least one of the models that is more about the looks and feelings like "Roma" for example,,,

    Why not?
     
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  2. Ianjoub

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    As a percentage of sales, very few people buy them. With few selling, design and R&D costs are HUGE on a per unit basis. This makes it cost prohibitive.
     
  3. Jb-Slow

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    Porsche's 911 sales are 30% manuals in the US, there's huge demand here. They've said numerous times they'll keep making them if people keep wanting them, and they/we do.
     
  4. Texas Forever

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    Funny guy. You mean people actually drive these cars?
     
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  5. ginoBBi512

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    Not a chance, those days are long gone, never to return. Thats why you see F430 , F355 ,360 550 , 599 manuals and whichever going for insane prices . Like the Op said, no one wants to shift gears, not unless theres those paddles hanging from the steering wheel, with that being said, those drivers most likely would not even know how to work a 3 peddle car. Im glad Porsche is still in the game, even offering a 4s with a 7 speed and 3 peddles . Im now ok with trying to afford a 488 GTB at some point, I love the car so much, and with the 328 still under my tutelage , I will be fine with left foot braking and full throttle upshifts , its a nice dream to have at 57 , now if I could just stop buying motorcycles . lol

    Thank you
     
  6. Doc_Dent

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    Makes sense.
    + Porsche in comparison has much bigger production numbers and sales as well.
     
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  7. Doc_Dent

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    Was driving my 575 a s few months ago "F1".
    A friend of mine joined the drive with his 355 "Manual".
    We switched cars on the way back, can't express the "blast" I had shifting the gears with "top down":)
    +The BIG difference in "horses" didn't spoil the "thrill" at all,,,
     
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  8. HotShoe

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    Sadly it will never happen.

    They'd rather make the easy $$$ selling bloated SUV's targeted at the wives of orthodontists so they can one up the Urus mom's in the private school car line.
     
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  9. Doc_Dent

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    Yup, IMO if they had to choose between following the SUV trend, or give us an amazing modern Manual Transmission F car, they would follow the $$$ of course :)
     
  10. Ira Schwartz

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    This will never happen, and in the incredibly unlikely event that it did the Roma is the last car they'd fit with a manual gearbox. I'd wager that few Roma buyers would even know how to drive it, and even fewer would want to.
    As long as the trend towards GT cars and SUVs- as opposed to real sports cars- continues, neither Ferrari nor any other low-volume carmaker will offer a manual transmission. Sad, but true . . .
     
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  11. Doc_Dent

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    Yeah, "sad" indeed.
    "Spyker" did beautifully though,
    but that era is over I guess...
     
  12. Doc_Dent

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    Have been getting many offers lately
    on my Lamborghini Murcielago "gated ofcourse";),some around %10+ more than what I got it for.
    But whenever I think about letting go, a feeling of "WHAT PROPER MODERN GATED EXOTIC CAN I GET INSTEAD?" gets me.
    IMO, in a few years with how AutoMakers are steering the market, I guess gated TOYS will be in a very different level of availability and price range.
     
  13. F2003-GA

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    When they offered it on brand new California they only sold THREE UNITS total worldwide
    Hence no more offerings plus F8 is way too fast for a manual
     
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  14. Doc_Dent

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    Never knew they did before!
    That is interesting,
    any idea of price they charged?
    What kind of Manual gear was used " new Gen" or "previous /modified"?
     
  15. F2003-GA

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    No cost option
     
  16. DeSoto

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    Ask why they don´t build manual gearboxes anymore to those who didn´t buy manual 599 and 430 while they still offered them. Hard to find those cars now because few were sold back then. Those who want performance will buy a semi-auto because it´s faster, and those who want a GT cruiser would buy it too because it´s more comfortable. That leaves a small market of "purists" in the middle.

    Although I suppose that at some point they´ll make another manual, as a "Icona" car, a very rare limited edition or something like that: it´s easy to find a small group of collectors willing to pay whatever for a rarity.
     
  17. Doc_Dent

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    That is a logical thought,
    However limiting it to ICONAs would be useless to most "purists" I guess, looking at sticker prices of ICONAs....
     
  18. DeSoto

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    Those would be "rich purists".

    A manual Ferrari now would be necessarily a very expensive car: niche market, and they´d need to redo a lot of the base car.
     
  19. INTMD8

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    I keep hearing they don't make them because very few were sold. This is true but also many accounts here of people trying to order them and being dissuaded. (or told, sure but you can wait a couple years for it if you get one at all).

    So more like self fulfilling prophecy.

    And no car is too fast for a manual trans.
     
  20. LVP488

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    They could also offer leaf springs, drum brakes and un-powered steering :D
    Qualifying an outdated technology as "pure" is beyond me.
    I think there are misconceptions due to the North American automotive industry, equating the DCT with the former sluggish torque converters that have been ubiquitous for years there, and have provided a terrible solution to encourage lazy drivers (and, worse than that, have been precluding other choices for decades).
    In Europe the situation has been different, most cars have had manual transmissions until the recent spread of hybrids, so it's easier to recognize the DCT has a real advance.
     
  21. F2003-GA

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    People who like manual transmission are Not denying that DCT is more advanced - they just prefer the manual experience
     
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  22. LVP488

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    For me it's just something of the past - I like it in my 550 but think it's out of place in a new car (and I do not miss it in the 488).
     
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  23. Stevenb

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    I’d rather have an engine that actually makes noise over a manual transmission. That would be a nice change
     
  24. IloveGT

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    can't imagine shifting my own gears at 8k rpm, constantly....I am so over with the manual.
     
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  25. Ianjoub

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    How's that manual trans going to work with an electric only car? It is likely they all will be all electric way too soon.
     

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