Nascar's Kyle Larson is better than Max Verstappen

I saw this early today and figured heads would explode here. Just like GOAT discussions in any sport, the comparisons are useless unless the competitors worked in the same conditions at the same time using the same equipment. Babe Ruth hit more home runs one year than the rest of the major league players put together. Cy Young may have been the best pitcher of all time, but could he dominate like Sandy Koufax (the best pitcher I ever saw). I did see Pele’ once, and felt I was seeing a generational talent if not the best ever. Same thing seeing Roberto Clemente, who died in a plane crash before his talent could mature.

I know heads will explode again, but it would be great fun (and make a boatload in a pay per view) for Larson and Verstappen to cross train and do two head-to-head matchups, one in a NASCAR car and one in F1. Larson could spin out and crash (like Stroll hahahaha) on the first turn. Max might really enjoy being able to legally crash into other cars to move them out of the way. Larson does seem to have the talent to get into almost any car and excel pretty quickly, Verstappen (IMHO only) is a generational talent who has that mix of raw skill and moxy. For purists, no need to flame me. I love F1 and also enjoy NASCAR. Larson is best in class on road courses, so his style might fit better than some other stock car guys and make a one-off more interesting.

Oh, best driver ever (best across series, car types and success in those differing cars and races)- Mario Andretti (YMMV) - F1 World Champion, Indy 500 winner, season champion for Indy cars, won the Pikes Peak International Hill Climb, replaced Niki Lauda at Ferrari, then went back to Indy cars and continued to win. He also won the 12 Hours of Sebring 3 times and competed in Le Mans for Porsche and others several times. He was 60 at his last Le Mans, pretty good for an old guy.

We can parse Max and Kyle Larson all day, but Mario actually competed and won in all of those cars and more, and received a Commendatore from Italy in 2006, evidence that Ferrari and others considered him to be pretty good. Today, he even is the official ambassador for COTA promoting support for F1...

 

We’ll never know.

 

This Kyle Larson geezer is not chocking with modesty.

 

Laughable.

 

Whatever he needs to say to make himself feel better. He sounds like uncle Rico from Napoleon Dynamite.

 

well, Checo's seat is not 100% secure....

put Larson in it for a season.

 

Thoughts? Wrong forum.

 

Lacking evidence to support that claim.

 

Liberty would be up for it, I think, ratings galore. Re Larson being a geezer, not sure 32 qualifies. He’s actually an all around pretty nice guy (too nice, he needs to put another driver who torments him into the wall a time or two). He said that he thinks he’s a better all around driver than Max, and that he’d have a better chance in FI that Max in NASCAR to win a race.

Evidence is only gained from experimentation, and I’m betting that every eyeball here would be glued to the set if they did a one-off trading places (Max will be far enough ahead later in the season and Kyle will be far enough ahead in the playoff points that they could lol).

Alternately, the sims are so good, it wouldn’t be hard at all to arrange a home-and-home race against one another, they’re both committed virtual drivers & like all top tier athletes, rabid competitors. They could donate the proceeds to charity and perhaps kick off similar dues also donating for the good. I’d be surprised if they and others like them haven’t already done these things privately.

This hot stove stuff, thogh, is pretty much good for for what we’re doing here, disagreeing over meaningless things.

 

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But why pay so much attention to a big mouth who's bragging ?? That's encouraging him !!!

The best course of action is to ignore such individual ...

 

If he were even close to as fast as Max in an F1 car, he'd be racing in F1, making 2-5x his NASCAR salary.

 

It could happen… but it wouldn’t prove anything.

 

What's the downside? No stage racing. No tire strategy. No silly 'maybe this is the last lap' BS. You know....what racing used to be.

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No red flags, racing in the rain (except SPA), abandoned cars left on track, no pit lane speed limit, ...

 

Larson's assertion is absurd--a seamless transition from Jack-in-the-Box NASCAR stockers to the most sophisticated racecars on the planet? F1 uses complex technologies that he has never used and G forces that he has never experienced in competition. He would be driving against young, hungry competitors who have been racing at this level since their early teens. No spotters in F1, you have a race engineer in your ear. From Boogity boogity boogity to Box box box.

 

Kyle would be closer to Max in F1 than Max would be to Kyle in nascar - or ANY OTHER type of car.

You could have said the same about Kyle Busch five years ago.

You put Max in a 1979-80 Ferrari and Gilles would blow his doors off.
And let's discuss having Max go up against Senna in 1988-89-90, it would be laughable.
Same with going up against someone like a Mansell, Hunt, Jones, Berger...

We could talk forever about taking today's drivers and plunking them down in prior seasons'
cars/lineups and how bad they would do vs. take drivers from an era years ago and stick them
in today's all-computer all-pushbutton cars and how they would do.

I can already see it - Max in a 1963 Cooper, 1966 Lotus, 76 Mclaren, 82 Ferrari and so on,
it would be laughable. 'What's this third pedal? what's this lever on the right side?', LOL

I'm not saying Max is bad - he's not bad, but to put him in a car that basically doesn't drive itself would be funny to see.
The ONLY guy that might have a chance is Alonzo.