MY SLOW 488 GTB 0-100, 100-200 TIME

Your engine is simply too young for giving the max. First real step is 5000 kms !

 

Unlikely

 

You might want to disconnect the battery to clear the ECU. Also, there is a specific procedure for powering back up; see the manual and follow all the steps. I believe if you don't do it correctly it can affect performance.

Also, as mentioned, the motor is barely out of its breakin period there. It may loosen up and become more fun around 5000+ miles. I remember on my 355, I purchased it with 3700 miles on it and it didn't really "come alive" until more like 6500 or 7000 miles.

Ray

 

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Ferrari engines are already broken in at the factory. If anything, time and miles wear them down. Seems like this particular car has a problem.

 

If that's the case, why do they suggest breaking in the motor?

Ray
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Reliability reasons but mostly in order for the owner to get used to the performance and bed in other parts of the car. The engine itself has been maxed out on the dyno before even being mounted on the car.

 

Let's hope 600 miles is enough to learn how to drive the car

Ray

 

355 engine, some 22 years ago. Engine breaking is something of the past on a car, including Ferrari's. Or at least something customer doesn't have to care for anymore.
You could give it full throttle from delivery, wouldn't hurt anything.

 

Incorrect on the factory part. The engines are run on the dyno, for approximately 20-30 minutes, it's a functional test to make sure 1) it runs 2) it's performance is within the +/- tolerances and 3) no leaks.

FWIW, using (stock)(factory) race engines and dyno performance as a baseline, aside from dyno horsepower, seems like the leading indicator of wear and tear on a modern Ferrari engine is leak down and compression. (i.e. when leak down goes up, compression goes down, you'll see it on the dyno). 12-14000kms of (actual)(hard) race use is about where you start noticing.

Probably true about the recommended break-in period. The engines are run to redline, but "maxed out on the dyno" is a stretch.

This is correct, you won't "hurt" anything. There is a clear and fair debate about if certain "break in" techniques have any performance or reliability implications. FWIW our race team has a defined break-in process for the engines, we've had good luck and zero failures, but these engines are solid. If anything, a few heat cycles turn up some loose connections.

FWIW while the engines are hot dyno'd before installation and the cars are road tested at the factory AND during dealer PDI, these are functional tests. In my experience (8 cars, plus man friends) one thing definitely not done is proper brake bedding.

As for the OP's 488, there are a lot of variables that affect performance. It's also apples vs. oranges on conditions and what you're using to measure, etc. A dealer's DEIS can show actual engine parameters (example, on the 458, we'd monitor ignition advance as a proxy of how well it was performing). Engine temp, ambient air temp, debris stuck in the intake, a slightly off MAF, etc can cause the ECU software to dial it back.

 

I too was referring to the dyno. Apart from the reasons you mentioned, this process is also known as Italian/race tuning. An aggressive running of the engine while still brand new that is supposed to ensure max performance. Not a proper breaking in period aimed at longevity though.

I believe that redlining an engine at WOT is the very definition of maxing it out.

 

I have heard the gasoline in some parts of China is junk. Maybe the anti-knock sensors had to dial back the timing so far that it resulted in a significant loss of performance....

 

"duh" on my part! this is a great point, had not considered but would probably be among the most likely reasons for poor engine performance

 

... Only he's slower than his friend's MP4-12c and 488 Spider using the same gas from the same gas station.

 

I'm assuming he's been using the same gas as the friends he's been racing with? Why aren't their cars kaput then

 

Off subject a bit but:
1. Tracked my 488 last week (has 700 miles on it) and noticed the brakes didn't bite very hard. There was no fade or soft peddle . I just had to really stomp hard on the pedal to get it to stop properly. I haven't tried properly bedding brakes yet but found it odd considering how good the brakes are supposed to be ..

 

Not up to proper operating temperature is the likely culprit.

 

Has anyone, like a Detailer maybe, sprayed anything on the wheels or tires? Carbon ceramics are very sensitive to contamination. Some dressings bond and don't really come off. I only use soap and water on my wheels, and apply tire dressing with a damp towel. Never spray anything on.

 

30 degrees outside temp is not helpfull.
do the 100-200kmh with 20 degres and the car will be 1 sek quicker altready.

 

30degrees is quite hot. Try to test it in cooler temps.

 

Maybe the gas station is Sum Ting Wong.

 

Found much the same thing on my test drives. Maybe they get better with more heat? I will check tomorrow at the track to see if they get better. So far, compared to my 991tts the 488 requires noticeably more pedal pressure to achieve the same level of stopping power and don't have the same initial bite either. It may have something to do with the composition of the ceramic discs. My 991tts discs are shinier (have a much nicer looking finish) whereas the 488 appears to use the earlier dull finish ceramic material, same as the 997tts does. The new 991 discs definitely feel more reassuring and are quoted as having a superior life under harsh use. I'm a little disappointed the 488 isn't using the later material if not just for the sake of having better aesthetics.

 

If your friends run the same fuel and they perform, it is most likely not the fuel.

Put the car on a dyno and not just any dyno. Find a shop with a Mustang dyno. There's a reason why people refer to them as heartbreakers. They are very precise and they most likely come closest to measuring the power Ferrari also measured. Also, when doing dyno pulls, make sure the car is heat soaked and do at least 8-10 power pulls and use the average of those. Make sure you don't use wheel horse power, as that is not what Ferrari quotes.

Finally, first and foremost find another 488 and race it to confirm that it's faster than yours.

What's your tyre temps and pressure?

Also as others have said, 30 degrees is quite hot.

 

No wonder they gave it dinky brakes: performs like a 430 above 86F

Better make sure you don't own one in the southern hemisphere

 

Don't! You'll start a customer riot LOL