Anybody use this stuff? Any observations pro or con. Primarily interested in how well the parts hold up if the system is not flushed every year - rust etc?? Thanks!
We use it in the lesser race cars (historic). Works great, stands up to race conditions and high heat cycling. It doesn't really attack the older rubber seals like some of the other newer synthetic fluids do. For the superior race car (TransAM/GT1) we run Castrol SRF (silicon ester). Hands down, Best stuff on the planet... if you are willing to pay for it. Really, the flushing every year is a product of how clean your system is to start with. New master and lines and you'll be fine. If you already have rust in your system, its like a seed crystal and it just advances more rust. Unfortunately all these fluids are hygroscopic (except the pure silicones) and they will pull in moisture if you don't have balloon diaphragms on your reservoirs to close the system. If you already have rust in your system, a better fluid isn't going to stop/reverse it. Rick
Thank you. System is reasonably fresh / clean. Want to use it for club event at Laguna - famous for eating brakes, but don't want to be obliged to immediately change out for street.
Ahh.... should be fine. 2dinos....?? Hmmm, are you the Dentist with two 246's that used to stay at Los Laureles Lodge with the Pantera club during the Monterey events? If so, nice cars... I've drooled. Rick
Brake fluid is brake fluid, plain and simple. The only difference between Motul 600 and the cheap crap you buy at any auto store is the wet and dry boiling point. As long as it is DOT 3 or 4, it all works the same inside the system. For street use, almost any of the brands work just fine, especially if you are sticking with the name brand stuff. But, if you are taking the car to the track, you will be heating the brakes up much hotter than they ever get on the street, assuming you a pushing the car and using threshold braking technique. So you want a fluid with a high boiling point. Motul 600 is good (I've used it), as is ATE SuperBlue/Amber 200 (use the Amber if you don't want the traces of blue in your reservoir), Wilwood and other "racing" fluids. Unless you are a serious racer or running in severe conditions, I wouldn't go for the high cost of Castrol SRF or whatever the designation is. I run Castrol LMA in my Jaguar XKE, and ATE SuperBlue/Amber in the Ferrari and my Corvette Z06, which is my track car. You don't have to change to a "street" fluid after the track event. Fluid is fluid, it all works the same. I usually run some fresh fluid through the system on the Corvette just before a track event, just to be safe since I really push that car hard. But for street use, most brake fluids are good for about 2 years. More frequent changes don't hurt, but once a year is good for street use/ occasional track days, IMHO. Lots of different opinions on this stuff, and YMMV, but that's my $.02.
p.s. Don't ever, ever, ever -- and in case you can't tell, I mean NEVER EVER -- use DOT 5 silicone brake fluid in your car. Silicone fluid is supposed to be safer for the paint. But if you have any trace of DOT 3/4 in your system, the two are not compatible and you will end up with a mess of gelled fluid in the system. Not good. And silicone will not stand up to the heat generated on the track. So stick with DOT 3/4 fluids and you'll be fine (DOT 5.1 fluids are compatible with DOT 3/4, just be careful you are actually using a DOT 5.1, NOT DOT 5).
Okay, it's your brakes, not mine. Do whatever makes you happy. Like I said in the first post, YMMV, and opinions differ. But for my cars, I'm not mixing silicone fluids with DOT 3/4 fluid, and I'm not using silicone fluids in any of my cars that I'm taking on the track. Personally, I won't use it at all. But that's just me.
No, not me. My grandpa was a Dentist - he drove an Oldsmobile. Also, I've never hung out with the Pantera Club. FOC/FCA & Shelby's when I was active in these events. Now, no time. It's a super priveledge to get to the track at all. When I first started with track events, I used to go nuts for this awesome 275
I have had a bad experience with Si fluid. I'm sure it works for someone / somwhere / in some car, but it was not a happy combo with my old Fiat X1/9 (many years ago). It was like I couldn't get the air bled, or make the car stop properly IMHO.