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Discussion in 'Vintage Ferrari Market' started by Marcel Massini, Jul 12, 2017.

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  1. sperry

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  2. Timmmmmmmmmmy

    Timmmmmmmmmmy F1 Rookie

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    The market is being very cautious based on Bonhams prices today. Plenty of lots bidded to bargain prices and either sold or passed in, only the McLaren truly surprising and so far 13 of 18 Ferrari's have sold although some weird figures with $2.4 turned down for the 312T5, surely it should have sold at that price (WTF), Enzo cheap at $1.8 and $3 million should have been low but acceptable for the 400SA.
     
  3. Texas Forever

    Texas Forever Seven Time F1 World Champ
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  4. KenGoldman

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    Having attended many auctions over the last 50 years, you never know if the last bid was a real bid or if the auction company was just running up to the reserve

    I saw several cars bid up and I do not think there was any money on the cars, in my opinion.
     
  5. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    Chandalier bidding anyone? Illegal in most states although very hard to prove. Watching Bonhams online there was plenty of bids for most with them flicking between online, on the telephone and in the room so I think there was money offered but much of it was bargain hunters, I mean the TDF was by all accounts not a great example but a cheeky $3.4 million bid might just rattle the cage and would be good value if the consigner is desperate.
     
  6. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    RM is live now although the prelude and lot 1 is still 6 minutes away
     
  7. footUNDER

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    Lot 3 - Gooding
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    high bid $290K
    no sale
    estimate range was $350K to $450K
     
  8. pez

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    the Gooding 250 GTS SII cab just went for US$1.25m on the hammer beating the upper US$1m est.
     
  9. miurasv

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    #34 miurasv, Aug 18, 2017
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    Ferrari Daytona "Harrah Hot Rod" sold for $687,500 including fees.
    Ferrari 250 GT PF Coupe 1433GT high bid $625,000.
    Ferrari 121LM Spider Scaglietti 0546LM hammered sold at $5,200,000.
    Ferrari 342 America Cabriolet by Vignale 0232 AL hammered sold for $2,050,000.
    Aston Martin DB4 GT Prototype DP199/1 hammered sold for $6,150,000.
    Aston Martin DBR1 DBR1/1 hammered sold for $20,500,000.
    Ferrari 166 MM/212 Export "Uovo" by Fontana 024MB hammered sold for $4,100,000.
     
  10. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    #35 Timmmmmmmmmmy, Aug 18, 2017
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    DBR1 sold at 20.5 million, 22.55 all up
     
  11. ttforcefed

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    f40 at bonhams did just fine
     
  12. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    Even quite strong at $1.45 million. Although it would appear it was much better than many offered recently
     
  13. ttforcefed

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    who wld have thought it - a rational market
     
  14. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    Porsche 917k at Gooding sold $12.8 + BP = 14.08 million, much lower than Canepa's asking prices but likely market correct for a car with no comp history and a slightly opaque provenance
     
  15. amenasce

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    917k cheaper than a mcf1...nuts.
     
  16. ross

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    that DBR1 price is huge.....wow!
     
  17. Daytonafan

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    Still convinced that even at this end of the market a usable car is more desirable, and unless you're Count Rossi probably wouldn't want to drive a 917 down to the shops for a pint of milk.
     
  18. Dino2010

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    Don't think so.... The public has just forgotten what a great racing car the 917 was, and how crucial it has been in Porsche's history. There's very little bling bling about a 917.
     
  19. 275gtb6c

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    Well, I would say les expensive rather than cheaper. BTW, prices are still pretty high from what I got from my hammer price app. Realy can recommend the latter!

    Ciao
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  20. GG Allin

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    #45 GG Allin, Aug 19, 2017
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    Considering how you could use each, makes sense to me.

    Edit: I suffer from not reading all of the above posts.
     
  21. ag512bbi

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    #46 ag512bbi, Aug 19, 2017
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    Any news on how Lot #65: Marrone Brown 1972 Daytona Spider & Lot #93: 288 GTO do at Bonham's?
     
  22. damian in nj

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    Neither sold, and Bonham's doesn't list high bid.
     
  23. thepinkumbrella

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    $445,000 hammer on ex Raab 250 GT Coupe at Gooding.

    Paul
     
  24. ag512bbi

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    Thank you.
    I saw that on the website. Just wanted to see if anyone caught the highest bids.
     
  25. thepinkumbrella

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    11,000 mile 328 GTS sold with no reserve at $95,000

    Paul
     

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