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Mondial spring upgrade needed

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  1. FasterIsBetter

    FasterIsBetter F1 Veteran

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    #1 FasterIsBetter, Jul 31, 2005
    Anyone have experience upgrading the springs on a Mondial QV? I was at the track this weekend and the car performed very well, but I clearly need to stiffen up the suspension. So I want to install uprated springs. If anyone has done this or knows of a good source for springs, and what to order, I'd greatly appreciate it. I'd like to go at least 30% uprate over stock springs. My car is an '84 Mondial QV, Euro spec.

    Thanks,
    Steve
     
  2. snj5

    snj5 F1 World Champ

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    #2 snj5, Jul 31, 2005
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    Yes
    I have stiffer front and rear springs on the Mondial to sharpen handling and lower slightly. Got them from Tate Casey at Carobu.com.
    The upper and lower perches are modified to accept the wide range of Eibach standard springs. One can use the original shocks or adjustable konis.I stiffened the rear relative to the front to sharpen up response a bit and dialing out some understeer.
    I just like loose tails. :)
    Picture below
    hope this helps

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  3. ctkellett

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    #3 ctkellett, Jul 31, 2005
    I like the idea, what spring rates did you end up going with? Did you buy the new top and lower springs perches?


    All the best

    Chris
     
  4. hank sound

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    #4 hank sound, Jul 31, 2005
    Russ,
    Are you back home yet (I hope so). Your posts seem so "I'm typing from my den- -and my Ferrari is in the garage below me" If in fact, you are still many miles from those friendly Ferrari roads of home - - your friends are "pulling your chain, kicking. your butt and basically, praying like crazy" for your well being.

    We'll say "hello" soon,
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  5. Mike C

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    #5 Mike C, Jul 31, 2005
    Uprated springs are good and help a lot especially to reduce nose-dive in hard braking... but if you go to stiffer anti-roll bars you'll notice even more improvement around corners.
     
  6. snj5

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    #6 snj5, Jul 31, 2005

    chris - the top spring mounts are machined to take the new much lighter, smaller diameter spring. The bottom spring mounts can be modified on the original shock or a new shock with the more standard spring perches can be used. I forget the rates right now, but the story is you have a very wide and inexpensive array of choices from Eibach to dial in your car. I did not stray far from stock, but wanted to go higher in the rear to sharpen response. Tate has been doing these cars for years, and really has a good feel at setting them up. Can't wait to drive it when I get home with the new springs and hot cams.

    Still have a few more weeks to go. Thanks for the prayers - everyone over here needs them.

    best
    rt
     
  7. FasterIsBetter

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    #7 FasterIsBetter, Aug 1, 2005
    Russ,

    Thanks for the input on this. BTW, I like the looks of those brake rotors. What's the deal with them???

    Steve
     
  8. snj5

    snj5 F1 World Champ

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    #8 snj5, Aug 1, 2005
    Steve - they are drilled Brembo discs at 4 corners. The Brembo rotors are a bolt on replacement for the stock item since I was running stock wheels then
    Also really like the s/s brake lines with them.

    Always happy to help an E-type guy. :)

    best
    rt
     
  9. FasterIsBetter

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    #9 FasterIsBetter, Aug 4, 2005
    I had a great conversation yesterday with Tate Casey at Carobu Engineering. It sounds like they have a workable and cost effective way of modifying the Koni shocks to work with stock Eibach springs and provide for adjustment that does not exist in the Mondi now. Since it involves removing the shocks and sending them in for modification, I'll probably have to wait until after the "season" is over and do it over the winter. Check their website. They have some very nice stuff listed there. Thanks, Russ, for pointing me in that direction.
     

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