The size difference and other specs are surprising. Very informative. Thanks
I believe a measuring tape set from floor to center of tail light, will tell the story of actual height difference between the 3.2 and the t.. Also, while we all agree that the 3.2 is a tad taller, viewed from the rear, the cut in bottom portion of its rear bumper, gives the illusion of the car being EVEN taller than it really is. Beautiful just the same !!! Cheers, Hank
The Mondial with BBS wheels is sort of weird looking!first time I seen this! The 360 modena wheels don't attract me at all on the mondial! I had a Mondial T cabrio nice car but its long wheel center base was no good on high speeds in curves. A bit scary for handling so I stuck to two seaters!
Having had a 3.2, they are great fun to work on. And so fun to tweak. If I get another Mondial, it would be a euro t coupe (lighter), sunroof delete, green, black or grey, tubi headers and a magna flow exhaust, 348 wheels and tall person headrest mod. And drive it every day. Obtw, in 2014 you can bring over an 89 euro Mondial t without modification......if that answers the question.
The 89 Mondial t has regular seat belts, but in 1992 the government got involved and made car manufacturers get moving mice belts and knee impact protectors. BTW, the best part of my 3.2 is right here, old school cockpit! Image Unavailable, Please Login
The Valeo option on the T. Obviously Hank and I feel strongly about this as an advantage on the '93 T! Cheers, Greg Image Unavailable, Please Login
Interesting fact, the t is identical in wheelbase, overall length and weight to the 458 Italia. The 458 is wider by about 5 inches and slightly lower. Dave
Personally I see 3.2 as more useable car, few years ago 348/T cars where common in F-club meetings, now they are so rare to see. I see this is due to lack of services, most of cars just sit in garage. 3.2/Qv cars just keep on going, year after year! With last of 3.2 there can be seen model T coming, chassi has odd suports welded at enginebay area, that has no use by 3.2.
So we know how there are only 43 "T" coupes made for the US. Does anyone know how many 3.2 coupes were made?? After the cabriolet came out with the QV, coupe sales floundered here in the US. Would not be surprised to find out an almost equally small amount of 3.2 coupes were made.
Not sure about the US production numbers of these cars, but here's the total Ferrari production numbers from my data mining: Mondial 8 Production started: 1980. Production ended: 1982. Total production: 703, 145 RHD. First serial number: 31075. Last serial number: 41727. Mondial QV Production started: 1982. Production ended: 1984. Total production: 1,145, 152 RHD. First serial number: 49837(?). Last serial number: 55343(?). Mondial QV Cabriolet Production started: 1983. Production ended: 1985. Total production: 629, 24 RHD. First serial number: 47247. Last serial number: 59163. 3.2 Mondial Coupe Production started: 1985. Production ended: 1988. Total production: 987, 91. First serial number: 59165. Last serial number: 79671. 3.2 Mondial Cabriolet Production started: 1985. Production ended: 1988. Total production: 810, 57 RHD. First serial number: 59393. Last serial number: 78895. Mondial t Coupe Production started: 1988. Production ended: 1993. Total production: 840, 45 RHD (3 Valeo). First serial number: 79453. Last serial number: 97698. 1989 was the one and only year for the US version Ferrari Mondial t coupe. Ferrari only sent 43 of them to the USA. Mondial t Cabriolet Production started: 1989. Production ended: 1993. Total production: 1,010, 51 RHD (5 Valeo). First serial number: 80339. Last serial number: 97733.
UPDATED: As previously discussed: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=106999 Dave, I think you were looking for these stats, looks like total of (87) 3.2 coupes in US/CA: Mondial 3.2 Coupe 1986 (61851 - 66205) #29 in US/CA Mondial 3.2 Coupe 1987 (66781 - 73347) #23 in US/CA Mondial 3.2 Coupe 1988 (74455 - 78666) #35 in US/CA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ There are at least these US-spec Mondials delivered to the US/Canada. There are probably a few more that are missing Tipo Model Year First # Last # #Cars Mondial 8 1981 37431 37453 11 Mondial 8 1982 38049 41451 136 Mondial QV Coupe 1983 45639 49491 50 Mondial QV Coupe 1984 0 0 0 Mondial QV Coupe 1985 53815 58537 19 Mondial QV Cabriolet 1983 47247 48993 55 Mondial QV Cabriolet 1984 49505 53011 106 Mondial QV Cabriolet 1985 53013 58669 121 Mondial 3.2 Coupe 1986 61851 66205 29 Mondial 3.2 Coupe 1987 66781 73347 23 Mondial 3.2 Coupe 1988 74455 78666 35 Mondial 3.2 Cabriolet 1986 59645 66189 148 Mondial 3.2 Cabriolet 1987 66377 73973 123 Mondial 3.2 Cabriolet 1988 74407 78772 178 Mondial t Coupe 1989 81342 82587 42 actual#, reported was 43#??? Mondial t Coupe 1990 0 0 0 Mondial t Coupe 1991 0 0 0 Mondial t Coupe 1992 0 0 0 Mondial t Coupe 1993 0 0 0 Mondial t Cabriolet 1989 81374 82571 165 Mondial t Cabriolet 1990 84665 88008 95 Mondial t Cabriolet 1991 88048 90461 49 Mondial t Cabriolet 1992 90607 93123 47 Mondial t Cabriolet 1993 93210 96325 23
I like your comment as I own a 3.2, but I have a different direction on your observation. It could be that the 3.2s are kept on the road with the most minimum of maintenance. For a relatively small amount of money an owner can put new belts on themselves without doing anything else. This gives the sense of security of new belts but allows the rest of the car to wear out without proper maintenance. Oil leaks to get worse, etc. The t cars may be in a state of hibernation due to the cost of doing a proper service when it makes no sense to spend the money to pull the engine then do only belts. Minimum driving costs, or limp along costs are tiny on the 3.2 but that doesn't mean they are being properly maintained. I think given equavalent maintenance the costs are very similar, but the 3.2 is much easier to shortcut the maintenance, all other things being equal. Interesting on the extra mounting points put on the 3.2 chassis at the end of it's production run.
For the US/CA guys, these are interesting stats as far as limited production cars that one could use as a selling point to get the highest resale values: Model Year Limited Production # Mondial 8 1981 11 Mondial QV Coupe 1985 19 Mondial 3.2 Coupe 1987 23 Mondial t Coupe 1989 42 actual#, reported was 43#??? Mondial t Cabriolet 1993 23
Mike, thanks for the info! Guess that makes my Mondial the last made for the U.S/Can market Image Unavailable, Please Login
That's awesome you have the last of the 88 coupes in US, 1 of only 35. btw: How to decode your VIN#: http://themotorcarsociety.com/Ferrari_Vin_Decoder.html 1st - 3rd DIGIT Nation of Origin, Make - ZFF Italy, Ferrari 4th - Engine X = 328 U.S.A. / Japan 5th - restraint system - D = 3-point inertia belts for front plus 3-point inertia belts for rear 6th & 7th - Model - 21 = 3.2 Mondial Coupe 8th - Market - A = Left-Hand drive vehicle for the U.S.A. market. 9th - Check digit - 1 Occasionally a letter, rather than a number, will appear in this space, but it will usually be a number between 1 and 9. In some cases, this number will be a zero on vehicles that were built for markets outside of the United States . 10th - Year - J - 1988 11th - Assembly plant - 0 - The eleventh digit is used to designate the company's plant location where the vehicle was produced. This digit should always be zero, since all Ferraris are produced in Maranello , Italy . 12th-17th - Serial # - 078666 The twelfth through seventeenth digits are production numbers in sequential order. This number should allow you to determine when the vehicle was produced in the production run. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When purchasing a used, Ferrari one should carefully compare the VIN against the different vehicle compoments. If the VIN indicates that the vehicle should have a fuel injected 4-valve motor, while in fact it has a carbureted 2-valve motor, you can safely assume that the motor has been changed out in this vehicle. This would adversely affect the overall value of the vehicle and your future investment. It is very important that the VIN is correctly shown on all documents, (registration title, insurance papers, etc.) concerning your vehicle.
Which is why it took me 5 years to find a Nero 3.2 Coupe. Ultimately, I ended up with a Saudi Arabian spec car instead.
I had Birdman's Coupe for years, then I bought one of the 42 (number of US dealers, at the time) Mondial t Coupes. The t Coupe, FTW!
