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  1. LamboLover

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    Chassis #4000 seems to have been listed today by Tom Hartley as a full restoration.
    http://www.tomhartleyjnr.com/used/1969/classic/lamborghini/1969-classic-lamborghini-moira-swadlincote-for-sale-cyy388g

    I love that beautiful red w/ the silver accent and blue interior. I believe I read in here that Kidston's orange SV was a complete restoration as well that took a few years and was asking $3.6m. Taking that figure into account, I'm assuming a S of equal condition could fetch $2.5-$3m?
     
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    According to RM Sotheby's Polo Storico did restore the front and rear original clams from SV lookalike back to original. They also removed the chassis mods and restored it to how it was originally.
     
  4. joe sackey

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    I think so.

    Love those transfer gear oilers.

    Our 4884 was single-sump when I owned it and the one thing I noticed about it was that the gearbox seemed to warm up sooner than on our split sump SVs

    I'm surprised the Register doesn't tell us that

    Well, let's not assume, the SV hasn't sold for $3.6m yet, so you can't take that number into account as a guideline yet.

    Yes, and I like how Polo Storico are interested in doing some faithful-to-original restorations
     
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    THJ seems to have gone the extra mile to restore the car back to original to include things like the correct interior and exterior colours and painting the sills and wheels silver from the gold they were. I'm sure Cremonini will have done a great job of the bodywork and chassis. THJ says the car has had a nut and bolt restoration but doesn't say who did the mechanicals or the interior.
     
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    Great looking car but they didn’t get the gap tight enough, which is often often a problem, where the sill meets the body in the rear. The two clips shouldn’t be visible.
     
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    I think that's just how they are. Look at the car in the post above. Cremonini, who restored chassis #4000, worked on Miuras at the factory when they were built and does the paint and bodywork for Polo Storico.
     
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    The above should read that Cremonini painted Countach bodies for the factory when he was at Autosport. He didn't paint Miuras at the factory but has restored many.
     
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    Geno is 100% correct.

    Whenever you see the 2 clips showing, it indicates that the sills have been removed for maintenance purposes, repainting or restoration, and not re-installed correctly.

    Reinstalling them correctly means, spending the time finessing & adjusting the sills so they are snug with the body.

    In this thread there are literally hundreds of images showing Miura sills as they should be, of course, there are also images showing Miura sills that need adjusting.

    IMHO, done right, it makes all the difference to the car's aesthetic appeal, plus, you know the car has received deserving TLC.

    Please see 3021 which we recently sold and the Polo Storico-restored 4846, with sills as they should be.

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    5110, 5066 & 4854, three Miuras all prepped by Cremonini, no gaps in the sills with clips showing.

    I think its a matter of if the coach-builder is allowed sufficient time (or budget) to perform the necessary finessing & adjusting

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    #16688 joe sackey, Aug 7, 2018
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    The irrepressible 4878 (it must have close to 100,000 kms on the clock by now) I'm not sure who did the work on it, but here again you can see correct snug sill fitment

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    In my case, when I was restoring 4884, the final SV restoration I did, I made a big point of the sills being fitted correctly.

    I think as the years go by, the people who own classic Lamborghinis have standards that are higher than they have been in the past, and ultimately the cars themselves benefit from this.

    FWIW, the TJH Miura's sill fitment can easily be improved if desired, not really a big deal

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    I remember the location at Corneliusstrasse in Düsseldorf in the very early 1980s. The workshop was in a very much cramped backyard and also the "showroom" was very small. Hubert Hahne`s brother Bernd Hahne was a very good racing driver. He sometimes picked up the new cars in Sant`Agatha and drove them to Düsseldorf overnight.
     
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    One can only imagine what those trips were like!

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  17. LamboLover

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    Fair enough, Joe.

    I only used it as a reference b/c it was the most recent example that popped into my head that had undergone a full restoration to become like-new again as well, except with it being a SV instead of a S; if Kidston believes his Miura is worth $3.6m, it was just a broad assumption THJ's could be worth somewhere in the ballpark I posted. I wish I knew what the last restored S had recently gone for; it would be a more appropriate guideline. :)
     
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    Just my opinion, but Rod Stewart's affiliation should guarantee that.
     
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    #16698 joe sackey, Aug 9, 2018
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    Indeed, I'll be very surprised if the seller takes it back home.

    FWIW, I think if it sells and sells well, it'll be partially because of the RS provenance, but mostly because of it's faithful & total restoration back to original spec.
     
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    Everything simply depends on whether the reserve price is realistic on the day...
     
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