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Mileage Anxiety

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by MaranelloDave, Nov 7, 2013.

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  1. David Lind

    David Lind Formula 3

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    Drive that sucker. It is, after all, a car, and they are made to be driven. If it were a piece of sculpture, sit around and admire it while sipping wine.
     
  2. bernardo66

    bernardo66 The Crazy Cat Man
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    When you die, it all stays here.
     
  3. MaranelloDave

    MaranelloDave Formula 3

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    Okay, stupid question: Why is it that older Ferraris always seem to have speedos stuck at 20 mph?
     
  4. bernardo66

    bernardo66 The Crazy Cat Man
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    You know, I never really noticed that. I have no idea.
     
  5. augustxke

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    I have a 08 scud for two years now,bought with 2800 miles now with 9000 miles and I store it for the winter. I will go over 10,000 miles when I take it out this spring. This is my first f-car and I have read this site for 6 or more years and it values low milage cars highly. So of course adding miles was a hurdle I had to clear and it was not easy. But I love to drive the scud and I am getting over the milage phobia. Crank it up.
     
  6. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Not just Ferraris. There was a period when many speedos didn't go below twenty.
     
  7. Knightrider

    Knightrider Formula Junior

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    More driving = more enjoyment and experiences driving a "super car' most only dream of.

    Life is short, live it with no regrets. Drive it, and if it depreciates a little more, it's the cost of the extreme enjoyment these cars bring. I'll work harder to earn a little more, so I can play more and not worry about it. After all, you've earned it! It would be a shame to deprive yourself of the enjoyment of this car after you did everything you had to do to obtain it!

    My best friend (since high school) has stage 4 prostate cancer, and it has really woken me up to realizing that we are not here forever, and that I should live life to the fullest. He invested heavily into collectibles instead of taking trips or buying nice cars, and he regrets it now. Seeing what he's going through has made me look at things much differently for sure. Don't deprive yourself of living life to the fullest (within reason, of course)!

    Don't let the mileage stress you out!! I know I'm not going to!
     
  8. PVEferrari

    PVEferrari Formula Junior

    If you want to look at an F-car, buy a 1:18 model or poster,
    otherwise, drive it as it was meant to be.

    Perhaps you aren't quite ready to own an F-car financially if your mind is preoccupied w/
    costs of depreciation, maintenance, repairs, insurance, gas, etc.

    Enjoy the drive!!!
     
  9. PhilNotHill

    PhilNotHill Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Let he who is without mileage cast the first stone. ;)
     
  10. bldscud

    bldscud Karting

    Aug 19, 2011
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    I have an 2008 Scud with almost 17,000 miles. I bought it to drive, and decided before I bought it that I would only buy it if I did not worry excessively about driving it. I know the miles reduce the value, at least some, but I consider that part of the price I pay for all the fun I have with it. I am willing to pay that price.
     
  11. Simon

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    IMHO you need to buy a higher mileage example, your ownership experience of this particular car will always be tainted. If you don't drive it you feel guilty about not using the car, if you do drive it you worry about adding the miles. You can't win.

    The only thing you should be worried about when stepping into a car like a scud is how long after the drive the corners of your mouth will ache from grinning so much.

    You own the car, don't let the car own you.
     
  12. DonJuan348

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    Not true, you know going in the car is tainted so why worry. Driving experience is greater than depreciation
     
  13. kerrari

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    The Napolis tag says all you need to know...
     
  14. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    ^
    What he said.
    You don't have to buy into the madness.
     
  15. Bulldozer27

    Bulldozer27 Karting

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    Would the mods please make this thread a sticky? Every new Ferrari owner should read this. I had struggled with this same dilemma since acquiring mine a month ago, but after reading the sage advice here, I'm no longer bothered by the 700 miles put on it in that time. In fact, those have been the most enjoyable 700 miles of my life.
     
  16. Bullfighter

    Bullfighter Two Time F1 World Champ
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    There's some truth to that. If you have a few million in the bank, buying another F430 to replace the one you used up would of no concern whatsoever.

    Why would all my cars end up in Montreal?
     
  17. mwr4440

    mwr4440 Five Time F1 World Champ
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    There is a very fine needle the indicator arm rests against.

    It is not magic nor defective.
     
  18. 4rePhill

    4rePhill F1 Veteran

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    The question being asked though is:

    Why does the indicator arm point to 20mph when it's resting against the "very fine needle", and not 0mph?

    The "needle" could have been located on the dial to allow the indicator arm to point to 0mph easily enough.

    I suspect it's simply a case that, back in the day, nobody really needed to know if they were travelling at speeds below 20mph and because it's not going to read accurately below that speed anyway.


    As for the whole mileage anxiety thing, a lot of owners are worried about re-sale values, whilst a lot of buyers are concerned with wear and tear on components, such as the engine, gearbox, suspension, clutch, cooling system etc., etc.

    As the mileage racks up, the car becomes closer to needing major work carrying out to keep the car in it's prime.

    By the same token, a car that has barely ever been driven can also end up being in need of major work due to lack of use.
     
  19. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    All true which is why the odometer is only a rough guide to service intervals.
     
  20. Dr.B

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    I bought my 360 spider to drive it almost every day about 700 miles a month although I have some concerns about resale that's not going to stop me from enjoying what the car was intended to do. Somebody once said " not to drive it would be like marrying the virgin prom queen and saving her for the next guy to enjoy"
     
  21. cheesey

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    back in the day one bought a car to enjoy as much as time allowed, no one was concerned about how many miles they put on their car, that was before the collector craze came in, inflation of new car prices and Ferrari became a fashion statement allowing for posers with thin bank accounts to join the parade... we drove our, now mega million F cars, as much as possible without any concern for mileage... then all of a sudden the value of cars stopped depreciating and owners noticed they could have an F car, drive it a bit, then sell it for more than was paid... enter the car flippers and the new paradigm about limiting the miles driven... back in the day most who bought F cars who could afford to drive them until the wheels fell off... unfortunately times have turned F car owners into "clock watchers" instead of enthusiasts
     
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  22. bernardo66

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    Not all of us are clock watchers. ;)
     
  23. mwr4440

    mwr4440 Five Time F1 World Champ
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    The story goes that Enzo wanted the cars to seem as if they are moving even when they weren't.

    True? Who knows but it sounds like a harmless quirk he could put into a car. Same with the unbalanced exhaust at idle.


    Besides as mentioned, who needs to know how fast they are going below 20mph?
     
  24. plastique999

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    Dave, you answered your own question.
    It's not a collectible.

    If it makes you feel any better, I have 14k miles on my 16M.

    The first month I picked it up, 3 close buddies and I took about a 1000 mile round trip in it from SoCal to NorCal to see the Monterey car show, Italiano Concourso, etc. It was my first time there and the whole trip was epic.

    Right now I'm typing this in bed at the Ritz in Laguna Niguel - my wife drove us down in the 16M, top down.

    Create those memories.
     
  25. ByeEnzo

    ByeEnzo Formula Junior

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    Yup, agree with creating memories. I have 38k miles on my FGT. I'm the original owner. Probably gonna be in my estate.
    The CS I owned was fun. Bought it with 7500 miles and 3 years later sold it with 15000 miles. Cost me a bit in depreciation but I had fun. I rationalized that I basically leased it for 3 years.

    Modern Ferrari's are mileage sensitive. No one drives them so the market is flooded with a bunch of low mile cars that either were traded in or are up for sale privately. You gotta accept that a higher mileage car is going to bring less $.

    I got a Carrera GT earlier this year. It had 8000 on the odo. Now at 9400 and probably will go over 10k soon. I'm gonna service it and drive it. I'll own it long term and mileage won't concern me.
     

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