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Discussion in '456/550/575' started by tazandjan, Nov 28, 2024.

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  1. Senshi458

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    So it's possible to run 255/40 with Michelins in front? My car have FHP
     
  2. M. Brandon Motorcars

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    I realize this is a bit of a hijack, but a few months ago I put Bridgestone RE71RS on my 550. I can't say enough good things about them, and most importantly, they don't feel like too much of a "track" tire. And I usually put Michelins on everything.
     
  3. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Reza- Affirmative, 255/40 18 is an original equipment manufacturer size for the 550 and 575M.
     
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    I had a similar experience with the new Yokohama ADVAN AD09 (which also comes in 550 sizes). I was expecting a lot of grip, but also some noise and harshness. I got the grip and road feel I was looking for but none of the bad manners. Strangely comfortable and quiet. Weird.
     
  5. Auraraptor

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    #30 Auraraptor, Dec 16, 2024
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    I use Bridgestone RE71R on my 575 and Michelin P4S on my 456M. Both of my 575 and 456M have 19in wheels with full FHP (the latter retrofitted, including the shorter 550/575 steering rack...only mention so proper apples to apples comparison).

    The Bridgestones are indeed much harsher and stiffer than the pillow-like P4S. The steering feedback and precision on the Bridgestones is orders of magnitude better the spongey P4S.

    The ride, comfort, noise, NVH levels are much better with the P4S but it comes at the sacrifice of steering precision, overall grip, and overall braking (and service life)

    Personally, I had a bad experience with Advans (not AD09, I think it was AD07). Yes the steering precision, grip, braking were great but tramlining became a huge issue where I was constantly fighting the steering despite optimized alignment/tire pressure/wheel offset/etc. Tramlining is fine for smooth road course/track but not for the roads.

    Edit: should add I got RE71RS for my 512TR and there, I realized I really need to service/replace my suspension bushings....but hey the braking and steering was great!
     
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  6. Senshi458

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    So what you guys think about the Michelin Pilot Super Sport, looks like the only option for OEM size when come to Michelin...
     
  7. Auraraptor

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    Supersport is the older, more twitchy, worse wearing predecessor of the pilot sport 4S
     
  8. M. Brandon Motorcars

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    HUGE difference between the much older RE71R and the much more recent RE71RS. Try them, you'll be amazed.
     
  9. Auraraptor

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    Agree, I run the RS on several other cars and while a stiff tire, they are wonderful for steering + braking in dry conditions (which is all that matters to me as the cars almost never see rain let alone sub 50deg weather).
    I plan/will be upgrading to the RS on the 575 when they need replacing by wear/heat cycles (unlikely), dry rot (unlikely), or simply time (likely). I try to keep my tires no older than 5-6 years per the date code.
     
  10. Edward 96GTS

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    Continental extreme tires are what the Viper guys are now using since Michelins are not available.
     
  11. Auraraptor

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    #36 Auraraptor, Dec 17, 2024
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    Yes, they are also the go to (IMHO) for the 456GT/M when running the OEM 17s.

    I use conti's on my wife's daily driver and previously on my 456 before swapping to 19s.

    GREAT tire. Rides harsher than the P4S but softer then either the RE71R or RE71RS tires. Good grip and braking feel. Comparatively cheap. They also last forever / wear very very slowly. Inferior tire in terms of extreme sport vs the bridgestones but for a dedicated GT (I would agree the 456 is more GT than the 550/575), it worked/works well.

    Unfortunately I can't comment on the steering/handling vs the P4S currently using as I was running Conti's before I redid the suspension.

    Comfort-wise though, definitely more sporting than the comparatively very plush P4S. Put it this way, using the same tire pressure, 17in wheels with contis + OEM 456 suspension rode harder than 19in 575 wheels with P4S + stiffer FHP suspension.
     
  12. tazandjan

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    The MPSS are great tires. Had them on my 575M before the slightly improved PS4S came out that I now use on my 19" wheels.

    In most comparison tests, the Michelins came out on top of the competition.
     
  13. Themaven

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    Interesting tips and thoughts here. Thank you everyone.
     

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