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Michelin all seasons toast after 29K miles?

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  1. Husker

    Husker F1 World Champ

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    My wife has a 2019 Lexus RX 350 that we bought brand new. It has 29K miles and the Michelins are almost bald. We've rotated them as scheduled and there is no alignment issue. I've never had to replace a Michelin earlier than 50K miles. Do I have a warranty claim?
     
  2. Edward 96GTS

    Edward 96GTS F1 Veteran
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    buy conti dws06 tires. i like them a lot.
     
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  3. TTR

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    Today's tire performance expectations are significantly different than let's say 20+ years ago when it was still relatively common to see tires last 40K - 50K miles or in some cases, even more.
    I've had some tires lasting over 70K miles, but that was few decades ago and I wouldn't be surprised if the manufacturer regretted making them.

    Based on my limited experience* and observations, along with discussing these issues with friends, both in Europe and US, with several decades in the tire retail/service businesses, 30K-35K miles seems common today.
    With softer compound, "high performance" tires, those figures can easily be cut in half or more.

    *Last few sets I've bought/used in my daily drivers (1/2-ton pickups), properly maintained sets seemed to have lasted 30K-35K miles and my current, 4 years old (another 1/2-ton) truck with OEM installed, regularly rotated "All season/M+S" Michelins have about 28.5K miles on them and I expect to replace them around 30K.
     
  4. energy88

    energy88 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    For some unknown reason, OEM supplied tires don't seem to last as long as those bought at a tire shop.

    Also, Michelin makes about 10 different varieties of the AS tire ( just bought a set in March). Replaced a set of Bridgestones at 35K that were starting to look ratty and might have made it to 40K, but I didn't want to take that bet.
     
  5. TTR

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    Another example:
    I still recall seeing one of those ‘05 or ‘06 Ford GT’s on its OEM tires in a clients collection and at +/-3K miles since new, tires looked like 75-80% worn out.
    Knowing the owner, his cars/collection and that he purchased the GT new, it was probably never driven even “spiritedly”, let alone “aggressively”.
     
  6. BJK

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    read the fine print. pro-rated blah blah blah. :rolleyes: good luck :p

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  7. technom3

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    Ohh make no mistake their are tire blends and if manufacturers want quiet grippy tires... They get them from the factory. When they wear out it's your problem to replace them. How many cars have the mandated star or symbol to identify it as a Porsche certified tire or bmw approved etc... You can buy them with or without the approval from the tire supplier.

    Good luck returning a lease without the proper marking on the tire even if the tires are brand new and same make and model. They must have the marking or you will get charged.
     

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