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430 Measured my ride height and actual weight

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  1. 24000rpm

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    #1 24000rpm, Jul 2, 2020
    Euro version 2008 F430, coupe, bose hifi- system, regular seats, cd-changer option, carbon rear panel, standard wheel, carbon brake, no 2nd air injection per Euro version.
    OEM everything except pre-cat delete and exhaust brackets removed.

    im astonished that the car without driver with 52 liters of gas weighs 1478.5 kg!!!!

    Ride height with FULL TANK OF GAS, no ballast, no driver

    LH Front 14.1cm RH front 14.1cm
    LH Rear 15.7cm RH Rear 16.1cm

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    #2 mwstewart, Jul 3, 2020
    That's about right. They aren't light cars. The standard wheels, seats, etc. do weigh a lot.

    It would have been good to weigh with a full tank - that's the standard for a kerb weight figure.
     
  3. 24000rpm

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    #3 24000rpm, Jul 3, 2020
    what does your built 16m weigh?

     
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    #4 mwstewart, Jul 3, 2020
    I haven't yet weighed it. My savings are below:

    Unsprung weight saved: 24.97 kg
    Sprung weight saved: 106.01 kg
    Total weight saved: 130.99 kg

    It had standard wheels and electric seats so I expect a starting kerb weight of 1600kg, which means the current kerb weight is 1469kg
     
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    #6 RANDY6005, Jul 3, 2020
    1256.45 KG pounds 2770 that was two years ago, going to weight again soon I install Titanium springs and challenge bushing and other stuff should now around 2625.00 pounds 1190.68 kg
     
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    #7 24000rpm, Jul 3, 2020
    thats your built stradale, right?

     
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    #8 RANDY6005, Jul 3, 2020
    Yep
     
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    #9 24000rpm, Jul 3, 2020
    wow, 1190kg is my 360 challenge car's weight


     
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    #10 fatbillybob, Jul 3, 2020
    Fyi... Without slip plates or roll off ramps your numbers are wrong due to suspension stichion. Any corner weights you get that you try to scale needs to be with resolved stichion, mass as driven, swaybars disconnected, car aligned as driven, hot air pressures, and dead flat floor.
     
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    #11 24000rpm, Jul 3, 2020
    was aware of the specific corner numbers are wrong

    but what is a roll off ramp?

     
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    #12 RANDY6005, Jul 4, 2020
    Damn it weight again 4890.00 pounds I was way off thanks for the info sir
     
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    #13 mwstewart, Jul 4, 2020
    4890lb can't be right, Randy?
     
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    #14 24000rpm, Jul 6, 2020
    i measured the surface where I was doing my alignment, using this
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    the difference between the plane on which 4 tires are located are about a few mm.

    front LH to RH 3mm
    rear LH to RH 3mm
    LH front to LH rear 4 mm
    RH front to RH rear 4mm

    I wonder if this is acceptable for alignment purposes ( ride height, camber, toe)

    I understand that If the wheel distance from LH to RH is roughly 1600mm, that gives a camber misreading of 0.1 degrees. ( Arctan 0.003/1.6 = about 0.1 degree)

    How does affect my ride height readings?
     
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    #16 24000rpm, Jul 9, 2020
    now,
    no passenger
    full tank of fuel
    no ballast,
    all 4 corners' droplinks released,
    exhaust bracket removed,
    pre-cat gutted,
    full hifi bose system,
    2008, Chinese spec f430 coupe (same as euro spec, no 2nd air injection)
    standard regular seats.
    standard wheel with oem sized tires (p zero)
    cd-changer option
    carbon rear panel,
    carbon brake,
    Every other thing oem.

    TOTAL 1497.5 KG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    #17 mwstewart, Jul 9, 2020
    Relatively heavy cars. Thanks for measuring: good to have the data point. The Spider is 1600 or thereabouts.
     
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