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  1. william

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  2. jpalmito

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    He was a more consensual person than Balestre i would say:D.
    RIP
     
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  3. Edward 96GTS

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    i would have thought he was much older.
     
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    Well he enjoyed while here..still remember the big "nazi theme orgy" thingie
     
  7. william

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    #7 william, May 24, 2021
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    The "Nazi theme" was maliciously invented by the tabloids to smear even more Max Mosley, that connotation didn't exist.

    The truth came about in court later on. In fact, nothing illegal had taken place between consenting adults, just innocent bottom flagellation.

    Years later Mosley took the tabloids to courts and won, bringing the Parliament to vote a new privacy law to protect indivuduals against the media.

    The suspicion among many was that Mosley had been set up, as he had made powerful enemies when President of the FIA.
     
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  8. DeSoto

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    #8 DeSoto, May 24, 2021
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    Having weird nazi fantasies is also legal, so that was not the point. I think that bottom flagellation with hookers is a "point" strong enough. Ultimately the issue was that nobody liked him, apart from the "clientele" of FIA bureaucrats that voted for him, and his pal Bernie. That duo, Bernie and Max, had set a reign of terror that couldn´t last forever. One of his many enemies took Max down with the hookers, but it could have been another thing. And Bernie was betrayed by his most loved friend: money.
     
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    We finally found Williams‘s new F chat signature quote.
     
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  10. Edward 96GTS

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    rumor has it that mclaren setup max. $100 million dollar fine will piss off people.
     
  11. 375+

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    Uncle Ron
     
  12. william

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    That has been rumoured.
     
  13. william

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    No smoke without a fire ...
     
  14. william

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    I'm glad that tickles you .

    Bottom flagellation was quite common in the upper-class in England, maybe still is.

    So nothing extraordinary there.
     
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    LOl The Chavs are at it too
     
  16. SimCity3

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    Presumably not sponsored by Mercedes ?
     
  17. SimCity3

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    Apparently Uncle Ron was an expert in resentment.
     
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  18. nerofer

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    Well, Uncle Ron certainly was (and probably still is...) a "control freak", not exactly the usual happy-go-lucky carefree hippie...
    And for someone so touchy about everything being ship-shape and under control, having been fined $ 100 million and having HIS company (in a way, himself) accused of cheating, that must have been pretty hard to swallow.
    I'm sure he can bear a grudge, yes...

    Rgds
     
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  19. Nuvolari

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    It is a shame that this thread and other news sources prefer to focus on scandal and not recognize the achievements of the man.

    Personal faults aside Max Mosely did immeasurable good for the sport and pushed its modernization. After the Ratzenberger and Senna deaths he recognized that the sport faced serious regulation or possible extinction if they did not take a hard stance on safety. Scores of drivers in the sport owe their life to this and (together with Bernie Eccelstone) monetized the sport in an un-imaginable way making enormous fortunes for many.

    It is worth reading up on him a little as he lived an interesting and incredibly accomplished life.
     
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  20. william

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    The Spygate was a turning point that changed everything for Ron Dennis.
    He lost his reputation among peers, and was told to relinquish his position of team principal.
    Because of the severity of the financial penalty, his associates turned against him and his friends deserted him.
    He was finally expelled from the board and shown the way out.
    An ignominous end to an exceptional career.

    I would consider him an ideal suspect.
     
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  21. william

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    Max Mosley was the best FIA President we had so far.

    He probably achieved more for motor sport than Ballestre or Todt together.

    I also remember when him and his 3 partners launched MARCH as "Four blokes and a telephone", an adventure we will never see the like again.

    For all these reasons, the pecadillos on the side are of no importance to me.
     
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  22. nerofer

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    True; his life was not exactly easy, bearing the name he has, when he was young. And frankly, I couldn't care less about the "scandal", which was no scandal to me whatsoever. Truth is that the man achieved a lot.

    And let us not forget that he also was quite a wheeler-dealer when they launched March: read Chris Amon account about his promised salary that never quite materialised...and if my memory is still what it used to be, the account in "Motorsport Magazine" by Patrick Head how Mosley sold a Formula One March to Frank Williams and Patrick Head for the 1977 season that was supposed to be a previous year model (= 1976 or "March 761") but, once all the paint layers had been sanded away, revealed the colors of the 1975 sponsor and model (= "March 751")...

    Rgds
     
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  23. nerofer

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    Yes, and somehow I still find that Ron Dennis suffered too much of the blame; that was unfair. Like him or not, he achieved a lot.

    Rgds
     
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  24. william

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    I agree entirely.

    The way the enquiry evolved at the time showed that once Mosley heard of something fishy going on at McLaren , he was out to get to Ron Dennis.

    There are some powerful animosities in F1.
     
  25. Mitch Alsup

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    ".....the good is oft interned with the grave..."
    ".....for Max was an Honorable man.............."
     
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