Not wishing to derail the Khamsin thread, I think this Ghibli referred to recently is in fact Rosso Cordoba. 106R7. Alex Fyshe, the ex president of the UK Maserati club had 115/49/1956 for many years in the same colour and it won multiple awards. Image Unavailable, Please Login best to all. Mark
Hi Mark! Thank you for putting this in the right thread. Actually no Joe was right this is Prugna and Rosso Cordoba is much lighter; here is a rosso Cordoba Ghibli Spyder I saw at Chantilly 5 years ago. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Another thought... Could that actually be Bleu Sera Metallizato (spelling may be incorrect), which is what is on my Ghibli.. In certain lights, like bright sunlight, it looks a little purple, like in the picture... Mike
So difficult to tell on a monitor. Here is a picture of 1956 from the Bonhams catalogue. I still think it looks similar. It is actually quire dark on the colour wheel swatch. Like a very ripe cherry.
This is in fact #1956, the car once owned by the late Alex Fyshe. and for those, who knew him: Alex passed away almost 2 weeks ago....
I thought he was gone way before that. RIP. He was a character when showed up in Monterey wearing the Union Jack as a complete outfit. That was a long time ago.
Well, these notorious trousers, signed by all F1-drivers incl. Fangio, Alex loved so much. These trousers were so worn out, that we all believed that they were walking alone... Yes, Alex was a true character. May he R.I.P.
My Ghibli SS engine is nearing completion. I was able to see it run on the engine builders test stand about 2 weeks ago. Seems to be running great! The builder is looking for a picture or schematic of the front of the engine with the A/C compressor, the power steering pump, and the alternator hooked up. It would be great if the picture of the engine was out of the car! Perhaps someone can help me with this? We want to be absolutely sure we have things set up correctly. Since the car has power (hydraulic) steering, I believe there is no idler pulley associated with the set up for the belts. We don't recall one being there when the engine was taken apart. If I recall correctly, the belts can be adjusted at both the alternator and the power steering pump. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks... Mike
Hi Mike. I should be able to help I think. I will post some pictures tomorrow and can supply more if they’re not what you need. Cheers. Mark
Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Here are some photos I have at the moment Mike.I hope they are of some use. I can get Some from other angles or closer up If you need. Cheers. Mark
Ghiblis came with different belt and bracket configurations depending on if it is an early or late engine and if it was USA or Euro specs. Mike's car is a late model USA car which has the alternator mounted backwards. This was done to permit the mounting of an air pump. Ghiblis without power steering had a idler adjuster for the water pump belts while those with power steering many times did not have the adjuster and the belts were tightened by sliding the power steering pump (which is a pain). This is a photo of a USA 72 SS with the air pump still in place. These days this is a rare sight as most have discarded the air pumps. Mike: my suggestion is have Sam mount the power steering pump (goes on the lower left), the water pump and AC, and the alternator. If he has the belts in hand and labeled, the routing will become obvious once the accessories are installed. The second photo shows the alternator mounting and you can see where the power steering bracket is attached on the bottom right of the photo.. Ivan Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
I own 115/49*1550*. I'm trying to sort out the wiring. Does anyone have a wiring diagram that applies to 1970 production year US models? I bought the expanded wiring diagram from a west coast based parts source but no joy. Wire colours are different.
Using a wiring diagram on a Ghibli seldom does any good. Your best friends are a multimeter and an electronic wire tracer. Electrically these are very simple cars. Which circuit(s) do you need to sort out? I might be able to help if you provide details of what is not working. Ivan
Ivan is right, most diagrams are not particularly helpful. However, we did find some value in the set of diagrams published by "C. Groth". They are available on the web for free at: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/54d6f3a1e4b02ef1155f339d/t/55fe0a2de4b03b9c77fdfc0b/1442712109917/Maserati+Ghibli+Electrical+Schematics.pdf On my 1968 we substituted inexpensive Bosch cube style relays for the now unreliable originals (except in the engine bay where they would be visible). Best- Ed
That most likely would be Claus Groth from Thousand Oaks. Not sure he's still around? He had a gorgeous Ghibli that caught fire on Mulholland I think. Total loss. He also restored a Bora meticulously and sold it a few years back to the former owner of MIE Kerry. This sounds like something he would have done. Good find!
A previous owner really did a number on the steering column switches and associated wiring. Only the turn signal indicator arm functioned. Rather than buying the proper replacement switches, the owner installed four aftermarket switched in the middle of the dashboard between the two air vents. He also re-routed the wiring to make all this work. I've found an Alfa Romeo steering column switch that has three arms: wiper/wash, turn signal and lights. I think I can adapt the Alfa column switches to work. Of course the wiring colour codes are different than my original (mostly) broken steering column switch. I've yet to find what happened to the two wires that supply the windshield washer bottle. There doesn't seem to be a wire diagram that matches my original wiring colours. Here is a picture of what my dashboard should look like Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Have you pulled the stalk switch cluster from the steering wheel? Does it still have the red and white connectors on the switch and on the Ghibli's wiring harness? It would really help if you post photos of your steering column and console so we can better see what has been done. This is a wiring diagram of the Vitaloni stalk switch. ANY Maserati wiring diagram should only be used as a guide and not necessarily represents the original wiring of your car. https://thecarnut.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/GhibliVitaloniStalk.pdf While many Vitaloni switches look similar to that of the Ghibli you may find that the shaft diameter on the Alfa switch is different. Best to find a switch that is known to work on a Ghibli. MIE at one point was selling a reproduction. Ivan
There is a company in California which does an outstanding job of repairing the Vitaloni stalk switches. They have done some for me and they are rebuild to better than new condition with the repairs updating the weak spots that cause many of the failures in the Vitaloni switches. The company is O.D.D. Parts and they have a website that you can access. I recommend them highly.
I have removed the steering wheel and the original steering column switch cluster (what little is left of it). The original switch cluster was badly damaged. Only the turn signals worked. The windshield wiper/washer stalk was destroyed along with the headlight module. The original wiring clusters had the red and white multipin connectors. I obtained my new Vitaloni column switch from Cyprus. It looks like it will fit with some modifications. I plan to transfer the original wires to the NOS Vitaloni switch. I have identified what 90% of the wires do. Fortunately, almost all of my electrical functions work correctly when power is applied to their respective conductors. I have not found what pair of wires go to the windshield washer bottle. I bought a NOS bottle from Lucas Classic. I'll post some pictures of the original Vitaloni switch and the NOS Alfa Romeo switch I'm hoping to modify. I'll also include a picture of the wires that I have labelled. My biggest problem is the DPO wired short cuts with lamp wire and four aftermarket rocker switches to take on the functions performed by the steering column switches. If my modification to the NOS Vitaloni don't work, I'll follow up on the sources you both mentioned. I was aware somebody was doing a reproduction switch but was not aware of who was doing it. Many thanks for the company's name. today, I started the process of doing an epoxy repair of the massive hole that was cut in the fiberglass (DPO!) to mount the four aftermarket rocker switches. Stay tuned for the pictures. FYI - my original Vitaloni switch did not have an exact match for all the conductors shown in the Vitaloni wiring diagram. About 85% were identical.
Try using an electronic wire tracer: https://www.ebay.com/itm/175466404246?hash=item28da9cd996:g:IWYAAOSwYQNgXcBS&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoKO%2F7b8Srm3dlgV1z12jy7trvGCtRKtOFBcVnsfljdG4WX31QI%2BecWPToSlrCoaeo1PbWcNFfA6zem0dAVUUb2A0U%2FjP3QHBE%2FNYJiCngnEbJlyPKDZ0INw864A2iwiHbgFT02cv5GDlQVtBFqEOMy61kMbb5j2tG4YLvbd7RiY5Vw9Q9VTCXh7wSCscHzfdzcW6MlhL52oq38%2FifViS3Iw%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4KM84GHYQ If I recall, the windshield washer has one wire that is always hot and the other goes to the switch cluster where it is grounded to make the washer motor run. In other words, you are looking for a single wire not a pair. Ivan
I'm back on wiring tomorrow. I'll check for the single ground. There is a large white that enters a wiring cluster shared by a smaller diameter white and a red wire right behind the instruments (roughly center). More detective work to follow tomorrow. I'll try to get pictures tomorrow. I'm giving my multimeter a good work out on continuity and voltage modes. If my Alfa switch is not adaptable, I'll call the folks in California.
I had to patch the massive hole created by the DPO using epoxy/fiberglass Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login View attachment 5505845
