Make an offer before or after PPI?

Personally, I’ve never made an offer before the PPI. The PPI is decisive to have an idea of what value to put forward. Making an offer before the PPI is a bit like flying blind, imvho.

Kind regards,

Nuno.

 

Just do what you think is best, don't overthink it. Personally, I'd offer them something before with the understanding that it's dependent upon an inspection. That way if my offer is no good to them, I don't waste my time or theirs.

 

Time was, gentlemen would agree on a price and then take the car to a mechanic. Then after agreeing to what needed to be done, the buyer and seller would split the costs 50-50.


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3600 miles an a PPI? What could possibly be found?

 

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On previous purchases, I personally have agreed to a price with the seller prior to doing the PPI, price assumes no bad surprises from the PPI (otherwise indeed you show one card and lose leverage). This allows you to keep the option to renegotiate if something wasn’t disclosed

 

$350 sound cheap for a ppi

FoLI is reputable so I have to believe they know what to do

Except there may be levels of ppi . Find out what they are going to check, will they inspect paint depth all around? For $350 I'm sure they're not doing compression test. You are buying from an independent dealer so they can't sell you a power warranty , do you have a dealer near you that you will use that could sell you a warranty , if you choose?

Can you share a link to it , or rather not?

 

double edge sword

If I ppi a car I want to buy and I am exposed to $$$ , I do not want the owner changing their mind and not selling it to me or selling it to someone else. I want to lock in that if all is good , I'm getting the car . No owner is not going to agree right of refusal to a stranger unless there is an incentive or assurance that I'm not wishy washy.

otoh , I don't want to commit to buying a car if the ppi comes back bad and if I deposited money I want it back . Therefore an agreement needs to be made as to the conditions of a bad ppi vs non-issues. No bad ppi , I have to buy or lose my deposit . Small issues should be worked out before offer . Major issues I can refuse or re-negotiate. Need to define .

 

nice car. seller looks decent , iow not a fly by night operation.
I did not have motor mount issues in '10 or '15 cali.
'14 calis probably well sorted out before new models in '15 came along . I think they have upgraded engine or suspension in '13. My car group buddy loves his '14.

 

I saw a burned-out transmission on a (non-Ferrari) car with <6K miles just this month. Some people just abuse the hell out of a car, new or otherwise.

 

the condition of the interior concerns me with 3600 miles. Mine had 36000 miles and the interior wasnt that scratched up

 

I wouldn't buy without seeing it first. Then make an offer pending a successful PPI.... If it has issues, you can negotiate getting them addressed that too!

 

You would know that doing a test drive though. Still wouldn't need a PPI.

 

If interior wear doesn’t seem compatible with mileage, that alone is worth a PPI if you want to rest 100% assured. Plus, that’s a very low mileage mark, which would make me assume the car sat for extended periods of time.

At the very least, all things made of rubber should be inspected, from tires to hoses to window seals.

Kind regards,

Nuno.

 

Something doesn't look right. See under ac vent picture, leather looks like it is separating.

There is a 9, xxx mile '13 for sale at wide world in Nanuet, ny for 103. They are a oem dealer, car is certified, I think at that value the Baron one not super unless you can get for under 100. But still why is some parts extra worn. Even see the weatherstripping at door looks worn.
If you look at vents for the '13 you will not see separation of leather. Idk about it now.

 

I guess I've been lucky. I have purchased 3 Ferraris with no PPI. My fourth was today. But the owner was extremely helpful and forthcoming with known issues so I felt very comfortable doing it with no PPI.

 

For this alone, I'd pass. If they're this much fun to deal with now, what happens once they have your money? Or, heaven forbid, you buy the car and something goes wrong with it early on?
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FYI - I had the worst PPI ever at FofLI. You should find a reputable independent in the area instead...and, perhaps, a better example of the model you are after.

 

This is paramount for the quality of the feedback you’re going to get.

Kind regards,

Nuno.