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  1. Pantdino

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    #1 Pantdino, Oct 1, 2006
    I have noticed for years that I have some splattering of black CV joint/wheel bearing type grease on the backside of the block and head, exhaust, etc in line with the inboard CV joint on the passengers side. The boot looks fine, and it isn't that much in volume, I just let it go.

    When changing the brake fluid this time I rotated the wheel while looking from underneath and noted that the inboard side of the boot of the inboard CV joint seemed to move laterally and medially as the half shaft was turned.

    By taking off the fender liner and oil filter I can reach it, and it does move some with my hands, sliding closer and further from the metal piece next to it. It is held by one of those metal straps with the tongue coming thru a hole, the tongue being bent flat along the strap.

    Is this something I can tighten by pulling the tongue up, snugging, and bending down again? Do I have to get a new strap? Do I need a special tool to tighten it?


    Can I just put a hose clamp over the strap and snug it down after removing it, pulling back the boot, and checking to make sure there's plenty of grease in there?

    Thanks in advance,

    Jim
     
  2. andrewg

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    #2 andrewg, Oct 1, 2006
    Jim

    Yes there is a tool to tighten CV boot bands, although for the cost it's normally just better to replace the whole boot (around $35)
     
  3. Pantdino

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    #3 Pantdino, Oct 1, 2006
    I looked up the half-shafts in my English translation shop manual, and it says there should be 140 grams of grease in the boot. I see a can of grease contains 14 ounces. That's about 400-420 grams, so the boot once contained about a third of a can. What I see splattered around is at the most about a teaspoon, or at the very most 10% of a third of a can. So probably only lost what was assembly line error of what was in there. So I probably needn't worry about undoing the band and checking for the amount of grease still in there.

    Any thoughts?

    Jim
     
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    #4 andrewg, Oct 1, 2006
    Jim

    I've seen zip ties used to secure CV boots in the past....could be worth a cheapy fix, or for permanent the CV boot from a Porsche 928 is the same, and pelican parts are relativley cheap for Porker bits ;)
     
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    #5 dm_n_stuff, Oct 1, 2006
    Which 928 Boot? For the 78-81, 82-85 or 86 and on?

    I want to add this to the parts cross reference, and don't know which boot is which.

    Thanks,

    Dave
     
  6. swift53

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    #6 swift53, Dec 24, 2009
    "Which 928 Boot? For the 78-81, 82-85 or 86 and on?

    I want to add this to the parts cross reference, and don't know which boot is which.

    Thanks,

    Dave"

    Has anyone ever determined which of the above is the appropriate kit for the CV boots?
    Thank you. Regards, Alberto
     
  7. Pantdino

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    #7 Pantdino, Dec 27, 2009
    The same band was loose on my car and I was losing small amounts of grease, as you describe. I got a new band and a tool to install it at NAPA but wasn't able to get the new one any tighter. This is because you need room to swing the tool as you install it and there isn't enough clearance to be able to do so.

    So the new one is no tighter than the old one.
     
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    #8 nerodino, Dec 27, 2009
    The worst thing you can do is (as i found out) have the car suspended on a jack and start the engine/engage a gear and have the wheels turning.......the inboard gaitor on the alternator side of the engine comes straight off!
    I bought some stainless steel bands but could not get in to tighten it enough and went back to a 12" Ty-rap which i tightened with side cutters by sort of folding them over with a firm grip then with a good final grip, cutting off the surplus. It is of course paramount that you remove any grease from the mating faces first.

    Pantdino. As a side note, How did your Father get on with getting the Fiat 500 home and is he pleased with it?
     
  9. cwwhk

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    #9 cwwhk, Dec 27, 2009
    Is your hose clamp an Oetiker type? If it is then there is a tool with side squeeze action so you can tighten the clamp at 90 degree angel to where the ear is.
     
  10. Pantdino

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    #10 Pantdino, Dec 27, 2009
    Hi!

    I spoke with my dad recently and he said the car is in New York or thereabouts and will leave by truck on Tuesday for its trip across the US to Washington State.

    Thank you so much for your help!!

    Jim
     
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    #11 swift53, Dec 27, 2009
    Any news on the 928 year? Regards, Alberto
     
  12. jselevan

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    #12 jselevan, Dec 27, 2009
    The only problem with the plastic Zip-Tie (ty-rap?) is that they tend to crack with exposure to heat.

    Jim S.
     
  13. Pantdino

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    #13 Pantdino, Dec 27, 2009
    My experience is that they stretch, too.
     

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